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Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44701: Dec 21st 2012 at 2:50:37 PM

I didn't see you speaking out against Todd Akin or Richard Mourdock for their incendiary comments against women

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#44702: Dec 21st 2012 at 2:59:56 PM

[up] Probably because we're getting used to it.

I'm baaaaaaack
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#44703: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:05:06 PM

NRA calls for armed school guards

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#44704: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:06:29 PM

@ UY: They had a valid concern about Hagel's ability to defend LGBTQ servicepeople in the U.S. Armed Forces. In response to his apology, the major LGBTQ activist groups accepted it with grace and withdrew their complaints. Sure some people didn't, but you can't please everyone.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44705: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:07:12 PM

The NRA never learns.

edited 21st Dec '12 3:08:19 PM by Sledgesaul

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#44706: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:09:25 PM

The NRA has no interest in preventing gun violence; they find it quite sufficient to stop it once it has started.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#44707: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:12:14 PM

[up][up][up][up] ...So they're suggesting that we put policemen in schools?

I... I actually wouldn't have a problem with that. I mean, it's the job of the policemen to protect the innocents. That certainly includes people in schools. It's definitely a much better use of policemen than, say, arresting people for smoking pot. :/

...I can't believe that I'm actually agreeing with the NRA.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#44709: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:26:44 PM

Is that the non-internet version of Internet Backdraft?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44710: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:27:35 PM

NRA used to be for gun owners. Now it represents gun manufacturers

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
#44711: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:28:18 PM

I like the Policeman idea too. They are actually trained to use it guns properly, and are evaluated more than often enough to not worry about stress and so on.

Teachers definitely are not. So arming them would not solve anything.(and there's many other reasons, already stated before)

The only people I want to see with guns should be Hunters, in a specific area designated for it, and Authority, that is, Policemen, Military, etc. Teachers? Definitely not. Their job can be extremely stressful, and giving them a weapon designed to kill things is not the best idea ever.

The NRA has got the right idea this time.

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Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44712: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:34:57 PM

Would you really trust the LAPD or the NYPD with guns in a school? Are you seriously going to give more power to the LAPD or the NYPD?

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#44713: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:36:51 PM

...Why are people so upset about the suggestion that we put policemen in schools? That's the first reasonable thing I've heard from the NRA in a long while.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#44714: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:38:39 PM

The NRA still has some allies though:

Rush Limbaugh praises 'classy' NRA

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44715: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:38:50 PM

Your solution to stop gun violence is to give more guns to people.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#44716: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:44:02 PM

The idea is sound, don't get me wrong, but how the fuck do we pay for this? Police department and education funding are already getting gutted left and right. I also can't see tax increases to pay for this being very popular. Obviously it's going to come out of the education funding and will crush our schools even worse.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#44717: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:44:06 PM

Here's a video of the NRA's speech:

Make your own conclusions.

edited 21st Dec '12 3:46:06 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#44718: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:45:54 PM

2 armed police officers were in Columbine.

Chew on that for a moment.

Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#44719: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:53:24 PM

[up] Made my point. Having cops doesn't automatically mean everything will be better

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44720: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:54:33 PM

Shhhh, let the NRA have their way-it means you have to hire one new police officer for every school in the US. That's stimulus, right there!

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#44721: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:55:47 PM

@Sledge: ...No. Policemen have guns whether or not they're in the school. My solution to gun violence is for the police to do their damn job, and defend the innocent.

@Kostaya: Both of those are problems in of themselves. We need to fix those too.

@Thorn: I actually did not know that. However, that does not mean that cops can't help in situations like that. :/ Sure, they failed then, but they won't fail every time. Especially since they're trained for dealing with situations where innocents are in danger.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#44722: Dec 21st 2012 at 3:58:04 PM

[up]I know but since they probably won't get better for a while let's at least keep them from getting worse.

[up][up]I don't care about its stimulus effects if it means education funding is slashed even more. I care more about that at the moment.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#44723: Dec 21st 2012 at 4:00:38 PM

I'm not against the idea of an armed officer in schools.

The problem is its an impractical (financially speaking) solution and the ONLY solution the NRA offered.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#44724: Dec 21st 2012 at 4:03:13 PM

School police should be the air marshals of Police. EG, MUCH higher accuracy standards and more often training.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#44725: Dec 21st 2012 at 4:07:02 PM

And who will pay for having one in every school?


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