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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
So what I think happened is...
Boehner tries a plan that will, he hopes, take the "reasonable and willing to accomodate" characterisation away from the democrats and try to make it look a lot less like the House Republicans took the country over the cliff. Also, he probably hopes to not get close to the actual date of the cliff, as things currently are because that would make things worse for him.
He fails because his plans relies on no democrat support and he can't get the representatives of his party to support him. So he has to worry about them and has to try to cut off rebellious actions which he can only do by disbanding Congress a bit early. This makes the exact opposite message that, I presume, he intended- "oh look, House Republicans damaging chances of a deal" and makes him look ineffective which makes him even less able to try and get the house on board for anything else. So now he is much more dependent on the House Democrats.
So either he does something amazing in making the D. look responsible from now on or he is now in a position where actually using the dems and marginalising some of his party and putting the blame on them so they are more likely to be kicked out in 2014 primaries (or even the elections if he prefers ruling in hell to serving in heaven) is more in his personal favour.
And then his party revolts and kicks him out of the Speaker's chair. Mr. Boehner does not have an enviable position, but I have to admit to engaging in a great deal of schadenfreude in the matter.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"As expected, NRA deflects any responsibility toward Hollywood and videogames.
See, his point about putting a few cops in every school is a perfectly good one (if not particularly feasible). Why does he have to go onto a tangent about New Media Are Evil?
That's a rhetorical question, by the way.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.That article points out the fact that gun murders have fallen over the past twenty years.
Wolfenstein 3D, the first popular, truly violent PC FPS was released in 1992. If anything, the correlation would show that more violent video games, movie, music and TV shows actually contribute to reduce gun violence. That means, if we want to eliminate gun violence, we should give everybody universal access to the most violent games imaginable. Of course, correlation does not prove causation, but you get the point.
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.My high school had security officers stationed at the entrances (three per entryway) and security checkpoints to boot. Mind you, it was a small school of only about 800 so it wasn't really that expensive to maintain. I imagine it could be pricey to scale up to a larger school with more students but I think that a worthy cause for a tax increase. And it did worked too. On more than one occasion they confiscated weaponry.
Herman Cain: New York Times is 'racist,' 'deserves widespread censure'
Then they will create a national holiday based around kicking puppies, declare war on all of Asia, and make Herman Cain the new Secretary of State
edited 21st Dec '12 12:22:45 PM by DeviantBraeburn
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@Nettacki: People feel very strongly about guns, and it's hard to direct the conversation path from something people are immediately emotionally invested in.
And somehow, if it's left to the courts like the article says, I doubt that any of our courts would decide it's right to hold someone without trial. This isn't something like healthcare that's got murky legal ground, after all. And as previously stated, the detention parts of the NDAA got repealed. I think by the courts, though I may be remembering wrong.
In other, also hotly debated news, this is happening:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/18/new-south-carolina-bill-pushes-jail-sentences-for-state-workers-implementing-obamacare/
edited 20th Dec '12 8:26:01 PM by AceofSpades