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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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yea, 2 different teachers of mine(both of whom tried to teach neutrally) dont like him. the one in middle school basically said he was a bad man. My high school teacher called him a dick.
seriously, he killed a lot of people. and not just the ones he shot personally.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:16:27 PM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaackEvery president has done screwy things,Jackson had the Indian Removal Act,FDR allowed internment of Japanese-Americans,Carter's foreign policy was a disaster.
And really that whole act kind goes under Values Dissonance,technically every president until Roosevelt is hard to look at straight under modern values. So you gotta look a the older ones with a Fair for Its Day.
And with that I'd say Jackson was one of the better ones,certainly better than Van Buren or Pierce.
But I don't recall anything seriously wrong with anything Kennedy did,...perhaps it's because he didn't live long enough for many of them to be traced back to him.
A better scale isn't best or worst but rather Underrated and Overrated
I'd say Carter wins the Underrated contest,although Truman comes close
And Reagan wins overrated.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:24:58 PM by terlwyth
Best: Teddy Roosevelt (Progressivism FTW!), FDR, and Lincoln. Oh, LBJ, but only with domestic affairs.
Worst: Coolidge, Reagan (Only economically, though), and Jefferson (I mean Adams. Oops.).
Jackson did some terrible things, but he also managed to put more power directly in the hands of the American people, instead of the "elite."
edited 9th Dec '12 6:29:35 PM by DrTentacles
There's a similar thread for this: it talks about favorite president, though. Post here
, and please be a bit detailed.
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Details are for nerds!
Nixon started the War on Drugs (I think), and while Reagan could have done more to address the AIDS epidemic he certainly couldn't has stopped it from going global.
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Remember Ike was the one to fist put troops in Vietnam. And he strongly urged the Kennedy administration to follow up on his plans.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:28:40 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Reagan had charisma and sense of leadership, and actually demonstrating care. And he raised taxes when it was necessary.
Yep.
Well, remember that if Carter was not so unpopular during the election, Reagan wouldn't have been as prominent. That big change is partially to blame.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:28:45 PM by Trivialis
Sorry, I meant Adams, with the whole sedition act bullshit. Way to go, undermining the entire first amendment, less than two decades after it was written.
Jefferson was...meh. He did some decent things, but also drafted the entire Indian removal act, and was pretty stupid when it came to slavery. Oh, I'm fairly certain he was a moron economically.
And some debt is good. Means we're spending money, and gives our creditors a reason to keep us afloat.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:30:44 PM by DrTentacles
Reagan bothers me more socially than economically believe it or not,mostly because in hindsight the Tea Party craziness is his fault,he put evangelicals onto the map.
As for why Jackson isn't worst,...he paid off the debt and is the only president to do so and he precedes the original Roosevelt in Bad Assery.
A shame William Jennings Bryan never had a chance,his anti-Imperialist stances and championing of leftist economics would've made him a great president.
Reagan is directly responsible for the anti-federal government stuff, or at the very least the popularity of the rhetoric, today. I'd rank him low on the goodness scale of presidents, very low indeed. He started the very racist meme of the Welfare Queen. Also the whole, massive fucking evil which was the Iran Contra affair.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
x4 Jefferson also wrote this
in response to sedition. That created a precedent for secession crisis.
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That's not the Tea Party though.
That's more of the supreme court at the time though, and some of it is justified.
Who is your favorite American President?
edited 9th Dec '12 6:32:50 PM by Trivialis
I always call this guy, 'William Bryan Jennings' for some reason.
I judge presidents by what they actually due as president, and not what there legacy may have caused.
edited 9th Dec '12 6:50:36 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Bill O'Reilly: Republicans don't care about rich people
Stephen Colbert says he's just the 'white guy' to fill Jim DeMint's Senate seat
edited 9th Dec '12 7:10:25 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016

Obama and Boehner had an unannounced meeting on the fiscal cliff today.
So something's being done, even through all the stalling.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."