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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#43176: Dec 8th 2012 at 8:43:18 AM

Interesting. I wonder how genuine this is.

edit: Just a side note but I forget who this guy was. My first thought was that it was New Jersey governor Chris Christie.

edited 8th Dec '12 8:46:01 AM by Kostya

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
Unchanging Avatar.
#43177: Dec 8th 2012 at 8:46:54 AM

DNC speaker. The guy who was ostracized for hugging Obama.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43179: Dec 8th 2012 at 8:56:51 AM

[up][up][up] [lol] Yea, I doubt he'll be switching over anytime soon. He's VERY republican.

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#43180: Dec 8th 2012 at 9:00:31 AM

Charlie Crist is the former (Republican) governor of Florida. He ran for Senate in 2010 initially as a Republican, but changed his affiliation to "independent" after it became clear that he would have lost the Republican primary to Marco Rubio. This is largely because he was lambasted for being too moderate — he did things like supporting Obama's stimulus bill, which gave Rubio (one of the premiere Tea Party darlings) plenty of ammo against him. He came in second in the race — behind Rubio but ahead of the Democratic candidate. Had he been running against Rubio alone he probably would've won (Rubio received fewer votes than Crist + democrat), thus neatly demonstrating why our system doesn't allow for third party candidates.

There were rumors at the time that, as an independent, he would've caucused with the Democrats — and even that senior Democrats asked the Democratic candidate in the race to withdraw and clear the field for Crist — but I have no idea how true that was.

As an aside, this (from the article) is awesome:

The Tampa Bay Times reports that Crist signed the papers changing his affiliation from independent to Democrat at a Christmas reception at The White House. President Barack Obama greeted the news with a fist bump.

edited 8th Dec '12 9:01:20 AM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43181: Dec 8th 2012 at 9:28:36 AM

[up] "President Barack Obama greeted the news with a fist bump."

you mean TERRORIST FIST JAB? [lol]

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#43182: Dec 8th 2012 at 9:38:56 AM

[up]

I for one welcome our new muslinazi-atheist overlords.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#43183: Dec 8th 2012 at 9:54:39 AM

Correction: Muslinazi-Atheocommie overlordstongue

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43184: Dec 8th 2012 at 10:10:36 AM

SOCIALIST Muslinazi-Atheocommie czars?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#43185: Dec 8th 2012 at 10:13:16 AM

<Sarcasm>Socialism is the same as communism, after all</Sarcasm>.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43187: Dec 8th 2012 at 10:19:45 AM

[up][up] I know, I was just continuing the joke. tongue

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Bluesqueak Since: Jan, 2010
#43188: Dec 8th 2012 at 10:54:17 AM

[up][up]Depends on whether the 'robot revolution' follows the 'industrial revolution' model. That is, people still have jobs. Just different jobs.

If it doesn't, we do go back to a demand crisis. Because right now, robots don't buy stuff.

It ain't over 'till the ring hits the lava.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#43189: Dec 8th 2012 at 11:08:04 AM

[up]The obvious solution is to make robots that buy stuff. grin

drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#43190: Dec 8th 2012 at 11:12:16 AM

Something actually kind of cool; comics guy is also a state rep. His store has become a political forum.

Geeks FTW.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#43191: Dec 8th 2012 at 12:16:31 PM

South Carolina governor Nikki Haley shut the lid on Stephen Colbert's attempt to get her to appoint him to retiring Senator Jim DeMint's seat.

Reasoning? He doesn't know the state drink.

Even though he stumped her on the state amphibian (which he knew).

edited 8th Dec '12 12:16:46 PM by tclittle

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43192: Dec 8th 2012 at 12:27:34 PM

Damn shame.

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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#43193: Dec 8th 2012 at 12:43:14 PM

Charlie Crist has officially become a Democrat.

Wow.

I really do wonder if his cooperation with the president had such strong backlash that he actually turned to Democrats.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43194: Dec 8th 2012 at 12:45:24 PM

The point is that the robot revolution shifts bargaining power away from laborers and to capital owners.

Just saying "Oh, we'll all have jobs but they'll be different jobs" is ignoring this fact.

If you had mandated wage laws that could work-then we'd all be the Jetsons.

Bluesqueak Since: Jan, 2010
#43195: Dec 8th 2012 at 1:13:42 PM

[up]Well, it depends how much capital is required. Used robots start at about £4000. They may go cheaper yet.

As someone who's actually been kicked by a cow, I tend to think of the industrial revolution as A Good Thing. grin The Comp Sci revolution may be more of the same.

It ain't over 'till the ring hits the lava.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43196: Dec 8th 2012 at 1:18:04 PM

There's simple economics on this. If suppliers can buy capital to increase production at cost X, and hire a laborer to do the same for X+Y, and Y is a positive number, they'll use the capital.

As was said, it really becomes a crisis of demand not supply at that point.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#43197: Dec 8th 2012 at 1:55:57 PM

At least they'll always need some guys to make sure the robots dont break down.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43198: Dec 8th 2012 at 3:27:59 PM

Right, but the point is, that's a very very small percentage of the population by that point.

Bluesqueak Since: Jan, 2010
#43199: Dec 8th 2012 at 4:10:31 PM

[up]Um, no. You're making an assumption that the amount of stuff the robots produce will remain constant.

If cost decreases, demand may balance out. Because if you have certain woozits that previously cost $100,000, and now cost $100, you'll need a lot more people to store the woozits, and sell the woozits to the retailers, and retail the woozits...

There are limits to this approach, of course (which is where supply-side economics falls down). My own country wandered into an Empire because we needed people who we could sell all this bloody stuff to.

edited 8th Dec '12 4:11:18 PM by Bluesqueak

It ain't over 'till the ring hits the lava.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#43200: Dec 8th 2012 at 4:19:47 PM

Bernie Sanders: GOP Senate obstructionism 'undemocratic' and 'unAmerican'

'Everyone in US under virtual surveillance' - NSA whistleblower

.....Well at that's not terrifying in the slightest

edited 8th Dec '12 4:22:21 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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