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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#42851: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:35:12 PM

Me smash head so dumb words stop coming out.

Is it too much to hope for that the purge will force Boehner and what's left of his allies to form a coalition with the Democrats, like a reverse New York?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42852: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:37:55 PM

It really feels like we are approaching a republican civil war.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42853: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:50:25 PM

Congress strikes word 'lunatic' from US laws

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
LooseCannon The Groose Is Loose from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jun, 2012
The Groose Is Loose
#42854: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:51:39 PM

[up][up] Until senators start beating each other with canes again, I'd not worry about civil war.

Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42855: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:54:53 PM

[up]

Its a metaphorical civil war.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#42856: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:58:36 PM

[up][up] I was about to mention the cane incident actually...

I'm baaaaaaack
LooseCannon The Groose Is Loose from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jun, 2012
The Groose Is Loose
#42857: Dec 5th 2012 at 8:58:41 PM

Oh, right. I apologize.

Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#42858: Dec 5th 2012 at 9:04:06 PM

I didnt mean it that way, I thought it was funny timing.

I'm baaaaaaack
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#42859: Dec 6th 2012 at 12:28:52 AM

Don't tell Serocco: You can buy a small Drone from Amazon!

Keep Rolling On
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#42860: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:03:08 AM

The drone thing is a simple examination of failure. I would have some questions for the Marines who made the ID. I would also have some questions for the entire fucking mission that has been there a decade and, despite recognizing the importance of "hearts and minds" on paper, doesn't have enough local rapport to be able to confirm when some kids are picking up some dung just to heat their fucking homes. A lot of factors went into making that tragedy eventually inevitable, and it's one more rock on the mountain of evidence that we should go home, sooner than later.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#42861: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:08:22 AM

Okay, let me defend Serocco for a bit.

Game Guru: Did you miss the fact that, when Serocco asked that flammable question, he hotlinked it to Sarcasm Mode?

Ace of Spades: I have the same issue with spelling the House Speaker's name as Seroco, so I'll answer for you. He cannot take the House Speaker's name seriously, as it's spelled Boehner. Neither he nor I can pronounce it as "bay-nurr" while we spell it like boe-nurr.

edited 6th Dec '12 6:12:06 AM by Sledgesaul

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#42862: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:17:38 AM

[up][up]That failure goes back to the early Cold War though, namely in assuming that A) every anti-colonial/national liberation movement is an ideological threat and B) that said movements can be defeated with force alone. Its nothing new, the First World is really bad at winning the political side of these kinds of conflicts.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#42863: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:20:27 AM

Americans hate BOTH proposals.

You can also vote on whether or like Obama's proposal or not.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#42864: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:21:08 AM

[up][up][up]

Wacky Americans Have Wacky Names!

Boner! Boner! Boner! [lol]

[up][up]

Its nothing new, the First World is really bad at winning the political side of these kinds of conflicts.

The British are better than most, though*

. Better than the Americans or the French, at least.

edited 6th Dec '12 6:21:20 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#42865: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:23:18 AM

Bashar al-Assad readies his chemical weapons for use against Syrian civilians. He's uploading Sarin, a toxic nerve gas, into aerial bombs.

In relation to Syria, the Russians are meeting with Americans to discuss Syria.

edited 6th Dec '12 6:33:59 AM by Sledgesaul

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#42866: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:42:05 AM

Well. Brace yourself for another war, I guess? I hope this will be short and sweet, like Libya, but I have doubts.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#42867: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:58:24 AM

That's probably why the Americans and Russians are meeting, to ensure that the Russians stay out of any kerfuffle. We don't want NATO and Russian forces shooting at each other even by accident.

Trump delenda est
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#42868: Dec 6th 2012 at 7:06:26 AM

@Rational: forgive me for thinking we could learn something over a hundred fucking years, especially since the Cold War ended a fifth of a century ago.

EDIT: Gah. This has me kinda pissed off. Sorry if I'm acerbic.

edited 6th Dec '12 7:06:52 AM by RadicalTaoist

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#42869: Dec 6th 2012 at 7:09:19 AM

[up][up]

That, and the Russians know more than anyone else how the Syrian Military is organised and what the Syrian Military operates. Needless to say, with stuff like the Pantsir S-1 around, it won't be easy...

Keep Rolling On
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#42870: Dec 6th 2012 at 7:33:50 AM

I doubt that Obama will intervene directly, even Libya style, in Syria even if chemical weapons get used against the rebels. Now if Assad doesn't be careful when it comes to Turkey... that might be a different story.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#42871: Dec 6th 2012 at 7:47:19 AM

[up]<shudders>

One sarin missile going over the border, and it's squeaky bum time.

<shudders again>

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#42872: Dec 6th 2012 at 7:48:37 AM

Well, if they wait for a week or so the Turks are going to have some Patriot missiles at their border.

"You can reply to this Message!"
MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan!
#42873: Dec 6th 2012 at 10:52:25 AM

The Romneys seem to have changed their ways.

What do you think? Genuine repentance or clever image-cleaning?

Mache dich, mein Herze, rein...
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#42874: Dec 6th 2012 at 11:01:41 AM

Obama gave an ultimatum on the Sarin Gas issue.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#42875: Dec 6th 2012 at 11:05:58 AM

He did? I know he warned Syria against using the gas, but what exactly is the ultimatum? And would it have any effect on Syria's decisions anyway?


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