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TheStarshipMaxima NCC - 1701 Since: Jun, 2009
NCC - 1701
#42676: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:47:39 PM

It could still happen. People forget stuff like sex scandals when it happens to be a Republican.

Bill Clinton called. He wanted to let you know he was never Republican.

It was an honor
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#42677: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:48:44 PM

It's equally "not news" for all of you guys to suddenly start arguing over America's "awesomeness".

[up] And people still haven't forgotten about that sex scandal.

edited 5th Dec '12 1:50:27 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42678: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:49:06 PM

So lets talk about Right To Work then.

Er I'm sorry.

"Freedom to Work" [lol]

edited 5th Dec '12 1:49:20 PM by Thorn14

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#42679: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:50:03 PM

[up]

Freedom to Work! (for increasingly smaller pay grades with increasingly less rights to any recompense)

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#42680: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:50:20 PM

All I can say for now is that I think the two sound over-ambitious. It's probably not going to go so easily once it actually gets put in action.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42681: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:50:21 PM

[up][up][up][up]People believing that is true has a direct effect on society and policy. This does not since it didn't happen. If it does happen in 2016 then it will have a direct effect in which case it's worth talking about.

[up][up][up]What are they exactly? I've heard the term but I have no clue what it means.

edited 5th Dec '12 1:50:38 PM by Kostya

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42682: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:53:36 PM

81-year-old former Wyoming Senator Alan Simpson Dances 'Gangnam Style' to Raise Debt Awareness

....

And yes, this is the guy who said that he hoped Grover Norquist would drown in a Bathtub.

[up][up][up][up][up]

The Lewinsky scandal practically defines Clinton's presidency. ]

edited 5th Dec '12 2:03:09 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#42683: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:56:12 PM

[up]You know, I like this guy. He'd make one hell of a cool Grandpa.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#42684: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:56:34 PM

You remember how Marco Rubio said he believed the Earth was only several thousand, not several million years old?

He's backpedaled on that statement.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#42685: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:56:49 PM

@Kostya: "Right-to-work" laws are laws that ban the union shop contract. Essentially, your employer can't require you to join a union in a right-to-work state.

In theory it's a good idea, and union shops are morally abhorrent to a lot of people (most notably libertarians), but in practice unions are completely ineffective if they rely on voluntary membership.

edited 5th Dec '12 1:57:18 PM by Ramidel

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42686: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:59:03 PM

[up][up]

Of course he did.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#42687: Dec 5th 2012 at 1:59:06 PM

Fighteer, you can't just say "strawman" to deny my comment, especially if it's unproven. I mean, you can't even find an example to prove me wrong from China or India? If you have valid facts which prove me wrong, then give them to me, and I will happily eat crow. Until then, I will see it as at least a valid concern.

I can take this to PM if you think it is too off-topic, but I don't like it when people don't at least try to refute my arguments.

edited 5th Dec '12 2:09:27 PM by GameGuruGG

Wizard Needs Food Badly
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#42688: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:00:43 PM

@Kostya: the basics of right to work is pretty simple. You can worke wherever you want regard;ess of if you join the union. The problem beiong, this means any union efforts are made essentiaslly useless by the fact employers can just hire people regardless.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#42689: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:02:08 PM

Pelosi is adamant about not raising the retirement age for Medicare.

South Dakota Governor Dennis Daugaard rejects Medicade expansion. Health benefits would be denied to more than 40,000 low/no-income residents.

edited 5th Dec '12 2:05:25 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#42690: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:05:17 PM

@Serocco: That's actually a fairly clever quote, even if it's somewhat inaccurate; the vast majority of the troops are still on-side.

Edit: Ninja quote deletion!

edited 5th Dec '12 2:06:20 PM by Ramidel

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#42691: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:05:25 PM

[up][up]I think there needs to be a bit more context in that article. Senate not ratifying a treaty and the budget/debt issue aren't directly related, so Reid might be overreaching when he blames House for it.

edited 5th Dec '12 2:05:33 PM by Trivialis

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42693: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:07:13 PM

Its hard to stick to a single conversation in this thread when people are constantly posting news articles.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42694: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:08:16 PM

[up][up]They're not a legitimate news organization. Most people know the Republicans that are throwing all these temper tantrums are idiots anyway.

edited 5th Dec '12 2:08:41 PM by Kostya

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#42695: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:09:16 PM

Good point, Thorn. Not sure what to do with the article dumping. Perhaps focus more on discussion than the link?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42696: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:10:16 PM

Politely ask to tone it down?

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#42697: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:11:51 PM

@Serrocco: If we're not talking about your posts, it's likely because we don't find it as interesting as you do. And as this particular post was about something that definitely didn't happen... well, maybe you should just deal with it. The rest of us have also been ignored frequently.

And while people haven't forgotten about Clinton's sex scandal I don't think anyone actually cares anymore. What with his wife having a fairly good record as Secretary of State and his own recent and obviously influential actions in the Democratic party. It was nearly two decades ago, no one wants to keep rehashing something that isn't news anymore.

The Right to Work thing really confuses me. I mean, on the one hand, I really think that if you absolutely don't want to join a union you shouldn't have to. And that whether or not you're hired should not depend on whether you're a member of one. On the other, I find all these attempts to prevent unions from forming or trying to cripple them horrendously immoral and damaging to human and employee rights. I'm very pro-union because I know that they work for the benefit of the common man and help balance employee numbers and bargaining against employee wealth and bargaining.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#42698: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:12:12 PM

You want a relevant article? I already posted one about South Dakota. Nobody's commented on it yet.

If you still won't comment on it, fine. I got other news. I agree with Jon Stewart. He's clearly said his position on it. What of you?

edited 5th Dec '12 2:14:13 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#42699: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:12:31 PM

I'm with Thorn. Everyone, can we agree not to just link news articles without context unless the poster wants to discuss something about them?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#42700: Dec 5th 2012 at 2:15:04 PM

I dont want us going off the cliff but its a guarantee its going to happen.


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