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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42576: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:30:39 PM

Because people think it would end up with hard working god loving Americans to convert to Muslim, abort their babies, and get gay married.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42577: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:31:01 PM

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A singular world government would be incredibly inefficient. The US has problems getting 50 states to work together, imagine how many problems a government would have getting the world to work together.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:31:31 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#42578: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:31:32 PM

So, Senate Republicans are going through this in the face of Bob Dole's plea?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42579: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:31:45 PM

[up][up]Yeah, that's because the states have powers they shouldn't have.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:31:50 PM by Kostya

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42580: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:31:55 PM

They already did. The vote failed.

People were crying.

And people are saying this is proof America should leave the UN.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:32:21 PM by Thorn14

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#42581: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:33:49 PM

I agree entirely (see my previous post) but it serves no purpose to claim that people who are worried about them and want a plan to deal with with them are either ignorant or acting in bad faith.

Were it me, I would offer the fiscal conservatives a long term deficit reduction plan in exchange for another stimulus package.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42582: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:34:05 PM

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And if they didn't have those powers they'd probably leave the Union.

Former President George W. Bush urges 'benevolent spirit' as US debates immigrant policy

edited 4th Dec '12 4:34:53 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#42583: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:34:27 PM

Did the vote require a supermajority in the Senate, or something?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42584: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:36:11 PM

Apparently.

Its just disgusting. I'm disgusted, thats the only word I can use right now.

People actually want us to leave the UN, why? So we can torture in peace? Or use chemical weapons?

We're not even first place in ANYTHING other than military, and we act like our shit not only stinks, but is made of solid gold.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:37:39 PM by Thorn14

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#42585: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:38:06 PM

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It needed two-thirds of the Senate's approval to get passed.

It only got 61 votes, meaning it fell five votes short.

Dick Armey, the chairman of the conservative tea party-aligned group FreedomWorks, has resigned his post.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:42:32 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#42586: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:42:09 PM

@Thorn: That's not true. America is the strongest country in the world. It has the biggest economy, biggest military, most aid to foreign countries, and largest cultural output every year. If America wasn't on top, this argument wouldn't exist.

@Deviant: The link won't open for me. What does it say?

@Senate vote: What did the treaty even do? Didn't it just confirm things we already did?

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
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#42587: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:42:11 PM

[up]@Bush: Well, I have to say that I find that slightly surprising and very encouraging to see. Bumps up my respect for our last Pres a tiny bit.

[up] Basically, W was a key speaker at a conference, talking positively about all of the benefits that immigrants bring to the country, and quotes him from 2008 warning the Repubs not to become anti-immigrant.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:43:34 PM by BlueNinja0

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#42588: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:43:55 PM

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Here's a different link

edited 4th Dec '12 4:44:17 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42589: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:44:01 PM

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Meanwhile we're failing in education and healthcare though.

Without a strong foundation those things provide, the things you listed will crumble.

We are rapidly becoming the next Rome.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:44:14 PM by Thorn14

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#42590: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:44:56 PM

There are lots of mean things to say about Bush, and many were said.

But he was a good politician (he would never have lost like Romney did) and a fairly compassionate guy, especially towards Hispanics.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#42591: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:46:47 PM

What confuses mem, is the same people who generally dont trust the UN are the same people who think the world will end when the antichrist sets up a one world government..so why wouldnt they be all in favor of ending the world so they could go to heaven and leave us sinful types to our fates?

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#42592: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:47:40 PM

[up] Let's not go there. Of that idea are bad game villains made.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42593: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:48:27 PM

[up][up]Maybe they think it may not be the first one, so they'd rather be safe than sorry?

I dont know. Good question.

Religious people are insane.

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Its true though, one of the "indications" that the rapture will happen soon is the anti christ sets up a new world order.

People think Obama is this anti-christ.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:48:59 PM by Thorn14

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#42594: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:50:37 PM

[up] Every time I hear that, I feel the desire to respond with a link to "Everyone's a little bit racist", just For the Lulz.

Obama is many things, but the Antichrist, no.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42595: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:51:12 PM

What confuses mem, is the same people who generally dont trust the UN are the same people who think the world will end when the antichrist sets up a one world government

Please there are plenty of irreligious conspiracy theorists. Quite a few of them think that Vatican is in league with the Freemasons and what not.

In fact Libertarians (of the Ron Paul variety) tend to be more UN fearing than Conservatives, at least based on my experiences.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:56:14 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#42596: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:52:20 PM

@Thorn: Roman Empire connections are overhyped, IMO. America is almost nothing like the Empire in its last days.

That said, I personally think Roman Republic comparisons are very applicable to American politics.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42597: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:53:18 PM

Either way, we need to either get our head out of our asses or die.

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Libertarians remind me of children having a temper tantrum for not being able to do whatever they want to do.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:53:49 PM by Thorn14

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42598: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:54:07 PM

FEMA releases $190 Million for NYC Sandy disaster aid

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Oh god, this.

Seriously people there have been a ton of different empires, why does Rome get all the comparisons.

The comparisons are always weak.

edited 4th Dec '12 4:55:53 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#42599: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:56:07 PM

Because it was one of the largest and most devastating downfall?

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#42600: Dec 4th 2012 at 4:56:42 PM

[up][up] My knee-jerk response from the title is, "That's it?" But I was unaware of the money already released for storm damage.

[up][up] Because none of the other empires got cool softcore porn shows on HBO? tongue

edited 4th Dec '12 4:57:21 PM by BlueNinja0

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