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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Newt Gingrich: Fiscal cliff is an 'artificial invention of Washington'
Yes, Gingrich, the Fiscal Cliff was an invention by Washington, but you're still wrong. Obama did not invent it, nor did his party. Your party did. Your people did. Get off of your high horse and admit you done goofed. You and your party have created a monster, and, when it starts going after your party, your now disowning it, rather than fessing up to what your party did wrong.
"It's a cultural icon! Or something." — Herman Cain on his 9-9-9 tax plan.
Pffft.
...Reading the article, that was the person responding to an article recommending her as Secretary of State, with her saying that the Onion is more accurate than the person who recommended her, and it was saying that she would become a male stripper.
Limbaugh: ‘What Happens When We Go Over The Cliff? A Democrat Orgasm Happens’
Or as I call it, 'a Liborgasm'
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016No one wants to go over the fiscal cliff. The question is whether they're willing to go over it to get something else they want. The Democrats want higher taxes for the rich and would prefer not to cut social programs. The Republicans want less spending and no tax increases for anyone.
If the Republicans agree to higher taxes for the rich, Democrats will likely agree to some decreased spending. This is the same debate that happened during the last manufactured crisis, the debt ceiling debate. Democrats and Republicans both have things they want. Democrats are willing to compromise on some of their positions, Republicans are not. Bad things happen, and Republicans blame Democrats for not agreeing to their proposal.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.The fiscal cliff will also cost millions of people their jobs and send the world back into a second recession. And Obama will likely take the heat for it; ensuring that the GOP retakes the White House in 2016 and encouraging these kinds of tactics in the future.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Allen West: Lincoln only served one term, too
....
Senator Mitch McConnell makes a fiscal cliff offer and proves he can't count
Convenience stores, lotteries face off over Reid’s online poker bill
Treasury Secretary Geithner: Rates must go up or no agreement
Hillary Prefers Kerry Over Rice as Replacement
Supreme Court to decide whether logging roads are industrial or agricultural pollution sources
John Boehner: Potential Senate Filibuster rules change ‘designed to marginalize Senate Republicans’
Joe Lieberman: Obama needs to be more involved in debt talks
Senator Merkley: Filibuster reform will stop GOP from ‘killing bills in the middle of the night’
Supreme Court to decide if human genes patentable
edited 2nd Dec '12 9:38:30 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Eh, I think that the president has the stronger hand here. Yes, the Austerity Bomb will suck-but a lot of it is things that won't go into effect immediately, and once the Republicans finally lose their oh-so-precious Bush tax cuts, they're now in a position where they need something from the democrats.
It isn't wrong of the president to be pushy. He just won an election, and this isn't like he's trying to privatize social security (like GW Bush tried) or something radical. He just wants higher top marginal rates.
edited 2nd Dec '12 9:45:00 AM by TheyCallMeTomu
Don't most Americans favor higher taxes on the rich? Regardless of how small Obama's victory margin was that should send a message.
Not only did he win the election, he won an election that he honestly should have lost. Had I not been following this thread and seeing how the predictions of the outcome went I would have been surprised by the result.
edited 2nd Dec '12 9:52:19 AM by Kostya
edited 2nd Dec '12 9:56:17 AM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."This is absurd. The outcome for the election was exactly the same as the June predictions (maybe it was slightly closer but that's it). You're going to tell me that nobody in his staff considered that they might be doing something wrong? I mean the fact that pretty much everybody disagreed with them is a pretty glaring thing to ignore.
Well it's not a supermajority but the fact that a third of Republicans support it is good news.
edited 2nd Dec '12 10:02:51 AM by Kostya
Senator Lindsey Graham Reacts To Obama’s Proposal To GOP: ‘I Think We Are Going Over The Cliff’
US Senate Votes To Restrict Indefinite Detention of Americans
"The United States Senate has passed an amendment to Section 1021 of the NDAA that in theory would forbid the President from ordering the indefinite military detention of American citizens."
Hooray!
Senator Warner: Senate wasting time investigating Rice
edited 2nd Dec '12 11:20:58 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016This is good. Keep adding amendments to that NDAA.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Another thing to hang around the neck of the House would be lovely.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.Remind the libertarian wing of the Tea Party about this betrayal and watch the TPers get ousted in 2014, perhaps?
See, this is what pisses me off about the American Green Party. They should be hammering away at the congressional level with this stuff. Run a bunch of of small-c conservative/rural progressive types for the House; they'll do much better than a Presidential candidate who'd get blocked at every turn if she won.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.This...literally makes me sick to my stomach. These..."people" lost the election, and still, they pretend like they have a mandate, hopping along on their corporate puppetmasters strings. When will they accept that they lost?

We have a thread for that.
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016