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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42252: Nov 29th 2012 at 6:10:56 PM

Wait, how does Alaska align with Texas politically? I thought that Alaska was all for socialism since it's a hellhole.

Remember Sarah Palin?

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
Unchanging Avatar.
#42253: Nov 29th 2012 at 6:17:50 PM

God, the Republicans are so unhelpful. I miss Bush. 1 and 2.

It's the great political party trick: making sure your successors are even worse, so that people remember the good old days of your administration fondly.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42254: Nov 29th 2012 at 6:24:24 PM

Bush 1 and 2 had their own problems. I'd like Eisenhower back thank you very much.tongue

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42255: Nov 29th 2012 at 6:37:55 PM

PETA Gives Paul Ryan its 'Bad Dad of 2012' Award

Only PETA could make someone side with Paul Ryan.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42256: Nov 29th 2012 at 6:54:13 PM

...

The runner ups sound far worse than him.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#42258: Nov 29th 2012 at 7:10:53 PM

Any Republican that was President after Hoover but before Newt Gingrich is acceptable sans Reagan (because that's exactly what we have now) and Nixon (because of Watergate and sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks just to stomp out Humphrey).

Yes,Eisenhower,Ford,Bush,...are totally acceptable compared to what the GOP is now.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#42259: Nov 29th 2012 at 7:13:16 PM

[up]Bush 1 is okay I'd just prefer Eisenhower over him. Hell, Eisenhower is probably a Democrat in today's landscape.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#42260: Nov 29th 2012 at 7:26:38 PM

Just like Obama would be a Republican if you went back to before Reagan.

Ford would be a Democrat even,because any Rockefeller Repub is a Democrat these days,so that's not saying much. Ever since Reagan managed to destroy the "New Deal is the gospel" mantra,politics in general just went out control to the right.

That said Dems have gotten slightly more to the left than they used to be.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42261: Nov 29th 2012 at 7:31:23 PM

The party lines were screwed up pre-Reagan.

Its rather amazing that people like Larry Mc Donald, Robert Byrd, George Mc Govern, Ted Kennedy, Barbara Jordan, George Wallace, Albert Gore, Sr., Henry Jackson, Walter Mondale and Birch Bayh could all be Democrat Politicians in the same time period.

Bill Clinton asks for help with Hillary’s 2008 campaign debt

edited 29th Nov '12 7:45:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#42262: Nov 29th 2012 at 8:22:16 PM

@PETA; all of those "runner ups" committed child abuse and assault. Ryan spent time with his kid doing something you disagreed with, something a lot of people do with their kids.

In conclusion: fuck off.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42263: Nov 29th 2012 at 8:40:32 PM

[up]

Yes, but you forget PETA logic:

1 animal > 1,000 humans

edited 29th Nov '12 8:40:45 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#42264: Nov 29th 2012 at 9:23:38 PM

Two Republicans have already announced intentions of running for Congressional seats in '14.

Former South Dakota governor Mike Rounds will be running against South Dakota Democratic Senator Tim Johnson.

Representative Shelly Moore Capito (R-WV) will be running against Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV).

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#42265: Nov 29th 2012 at 11:32:38 PM

[up]

Assuming Rockefeller and Johnson run for reelection.

Senate passes amendment keeping biofuel investments in defense bill.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#42266: Nov 30th 2012 at 7:11:23 AM

[up]

it always strikes me as odd how the Republicans will claim to be pro-military, then proceed to blockj legislation the military actually asks for the second it doesnt match with their ideology.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#42267: Nov 30th 2012 at 9:33:45 AM

It always confuses me to see Republicans in Red and Democrats in Blue, because it's pretty much the reverse of France.

Well, at least I guess a positive effect is that it's one argument less for those who call Democrats communist.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#42268: Nov 30th 2012 at 9:36:05 AM

If we really are at the end of the era of "cut taxes and borrow more" (mostly because our economy no longer supports that) then Republicans may actually become fiscal moderates again, and the two parties can differ mostly on social issues.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#42269: Nov 30th 2012 at 9:40:22 AM

[up][up] We're the opposite of most of the world, actually... This is a recent thing, too. Like, I'm pretty sure it started after the end of the Cold War.

Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#42270: Nov 30th 2012 at 9:43:44 AM

[up][up]I don't see that happening. If anything, I see the financial elements maintaining power over the certain-to-be-outdated-by-the-passage-of-time social regressives.

Granted, they may start to frame the arguments differently... instead of 'no new texes,' they may turn to 'okay, new taxes, but only if you give us X loopholes to cancel it out' or something like that. They may play different formulas of number games, but the sum will always add up to the same thing. I'm not seeing any trends towards lessening financial influence in politics in the near future - and I don't see THAT changing until some of our current Supreme Court judges retire.

edited 30th Nov '12 9:43:58 AM by Karkadinn

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#42271: Nov 30th 2012 at 10:00:25 AM

Chances are, they will be retiring soon. And by "financial influence" I assume you mean the banking lobby?

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
Karkadinn
#42272: Nov 30th 2012 at 10:15:56 AM

I meant corporations and the wealthy in a more general sense, although major banks and Wall Street do serve as a conveniently-encapsulated example of what's wrong with the undue influence of wealth (and the unfettered, endless search for more of it) in society.

Also, I wouldn't bet on a justice retiring just because they're old. People like Scalia seem like the kind of person who'd refuse to quit OR die within anything resembling a reasonable time frame just to spite you.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
Chalkos Sidequest Proliferator from The Internets Since: Oct, 2010
Sidequest Proliferator
#42273: Nov 30th 2012 at 10:20:41 AM

The Republicans-Red Democrats-Blue thing is very recent. Until the Presidential election of 2000 there was no standard color scheme; I can only assume that there was so much media attention and hype surrounding the 2000 election that the blue/red thing fossilized.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#42274: Nov 30th 2012 at 2:17:05 PM

Well, it kinda makes sense for the Democratic Party. They're blue, and they're the same position on the European axis as our right-wing parties, who are also blue. tongue

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#42275: Nov 30th 2012 at 2:40:55 PM

[up]So that would mean the Republicans are so much to the Right that they went past violet and warped back to red?

PS: Yeah, to Europeans Democrats and Republicans are not Left and Right, they're Center-Right and Far-Right.

edited 30th Nov '12 2:42:29 PM by Medinoc

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

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