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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#41901: Nov 24th 2012 at 2:36:27 PM

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I posted an article about Saxby announcing that he was braking his pledge a while back.

This is Norquist responding to that announcement

edited 24th Nov '12 2:37:09 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#41902: Nov 24th 2012 at 3:12:58 PM

If he plans to vote for higher taxes to pay for Obama-sized government he should address the people of Georgia and let them know that he plans to break his promise to them.

Funny, isn't that exactly what his recent statement was?

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#41903: Nov 25th 2012 at 6:39:22 AM

I have always had a sneaking regard for a man who has managed to rise to a position of such power and influence despite carrying the ineffably ridiculous name of "Grover Norquist".

That said, I really hope that Saxby et al tell him to get stuffed.

edited 25th Nov '12 6:39:48 AM by Achaemenid

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#41904: Nov 25th 2012 at 12:51:24 PM

Lindsey Graham, Peter King break with Grover Norquist

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#41905: Nov 25th 2012 at 12:53:59 PM

I really would love to hear an explanation of how Norquist hoped to do anything with his silly paper.

Did he honestly think that American politicians would not drop a toothless little waiver the second it suited them? They don't follow actual law so well at times.

edited 25th Nov '12 12:55:51 PM by OhnoaBear

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#41906: Nov 25th 2012 at 12:55:16 PM

Septimus Heap approves of these changes. It was time that this [insult] got dropped off. Always around to spread fairy tales about the economy and climate.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#41907: Nov 25th 2012 at 12:58:40 PM

McCain: On abortion, GOP should 'leave the issue alone'

GOP warns of shutdown over changes to filibuster rules

Civil rights leader Lawrence Guyot dies at 73

edited 25th Nov '12 1:13:22 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#41908: Nov 25th 2012 at 1:29:37 PM

Regarding the fillibuster: I'm a piecemeal guy. I don't really agree with the nuclear option.

#41909: Nov 25th 2012 at 1:34:12 PM

[up][up] Welp, I'm never voting for him again, or the republican party if it follows his advice.

edited 25th Nov '12 1:35:53 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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#41911: Nov 25th 2012 at 1:37:06 PM

No, but he did run for president 4 years ago, and if he ever runs again he won't get my vote with that kind of talk.

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#41912: Nov 25th 2012 at 1:41:53 PM

"He also may make filibusters become actual filibusters"

Work to be obstructive? How dare they!

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#41913: Nov 25th 2012 at 1:59:18 PM

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I prefer the British rules, where filibusters are permitted provided the points made are germane to the topic. This had led to some of the most epic Parliamentary theater in history.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#41914: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:00:26 PM

@Grizzly: he does have a point in that being so outright extremist about abortion and never ever compromising makes the republican party downright toxic to women. Which means theres a nonzero chance if they keep harping on it that your vote wont matter anyways because repiblicans will slide firther into obscurity and powerlessness.

and really. Its not the business of males anyhow, imo.

edited 25th Nov '12 2:06:47 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#41915: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:07:19 PM

Except that it has to be the business of every male politician since they have to represent the will of their entire district, not just the ones of the same gender.

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#41916: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:08:11 PM

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Nonetheless, it comes off as insanrely patronizing.

It'd be like me , as a latino, , being told I got no say in legislation written by white men about latinos.

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#41917: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:12:01 PM

Can't the conservative politicians just leave abortion alone? Can we stop dredging up decades old issues and actually focus on fixing the damn country! There are ways to get abortion rates down without criminalizing it but they have also blocked these at every turn so I'm sorry if I have little sympathy for them. We don't need this right now and it appalls me that a group that's supposedly "pro-life" can be so against every attempt to improve the quality of life of its constituency.

edited 25th Nov '12 2:13:17 PM by Kostya

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#41918: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:13:31 PM

A lot of their committees on women's health tend not to involve women at all. Or at least not women who don't agree with them one hundred percent. And then there's the debacle with Sandra Fluke that shows what they'll do to any woman brave enough to stand up and speak. Insult her egregiously and deliberately misunderstand her. (Such as the fact that women keep taking birth control pills regardless of whether or not they're having sex. Because taking them just before having sex is not how those pills work.)

So yeah. They have, largely, come off as incredibly patronizing this year. There is a reason the GOP needs to back off of the abortion talk.

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#41919: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:20:51 PM

And, of course, dropping the talk of certain social issues would help to alleviate the Republican's current image of persistent foot-in-mouth. Or, at least, the perception of it.

I just still don't understand how the basic conservative moor of "small government" and the Republican pro-life platform isn't the crux of every debate on the subject.

edited 25th Nov '12 2:21:16 PM by OhnoaBear

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#41920: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:24:22 PM

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because small government isnt their true aim. And never has been. Its a nice way to paper over "dropping regulations that prevent businesses from exploiting the shit out of everyone"

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#41921: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:25:24 PM

Well, yes, I have in fact understood that. That wasn't my question. My question is why more major sources don't bring that hypocrisy up.

edited 25th Nov '12 2:26:14 PM by OhnoaBear

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#41922: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:26:27 PM

Grizzly: Out of curiosity, if the Republican party (or every Republican in an area where you can vote) stopped trying to push pro-life legislation, how would you vote?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#41923: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:26:37 PM

[up][up][up][up]Because the Libertarians and Religious Right would be at each others throats if they weren't united against the Democrats.

[up][up]Because the media is not this big bad liberal monstrosity like they seem to think it is. I also have a feeling the higher ups tell them to ignore these things since they're probably Republican.

edited 25th Nov '12 2:27:49 PM by Kostya

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#41924: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:27:30 PM

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because if the illusion of "both parties are equally bad but semi-coherent" ever drops, the media would be out of a lot of money.

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#41925: Nov 25th 2012 at 2:27:49 PM

@Ohnoabear: Because the mainstream media is allergic to fact checking or calling out the BS in political arguments.

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