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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40976: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:19:11 PM

[up] This.

Frigging nutters.

I'm baaaaaaack
#40977: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:20:12 PM

what is this Jewish press? I've never heard that term before.

Jews have historically held a lot of high positions in US media.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:22:08 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40978: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:20:21 PM

deathpigeon: Oh really? Then if that's the case I'd keep those guys as far away as possible.

I like the Earth. It has its problems but I'd prefer if it not get lorded over by a seven headed dragon.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:21:00 PM by Kostya

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40979: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:27:52 PM

[up] You see the problem with republicans now? Theres no shortage of them like that

see, THIS is the reason I try to crush the protestants and reformationists in EU 3. [lol]

edited 18th Nov '12 6:28:17 PM by Joesolo

I'm baaaaaaack
Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#40980: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:28:12 PM

Well, Revelations isn't "this shall happen or else disaster will come", is simply "this shall happen". Eventually. There's no need to force it to happen sooner.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40981: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:29:01 PM

[up] Exactly! I really don't think God needs our maps to look a certain way for that too happen.

I'm baaaaaaack
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#40982: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:29:45 PM

The very idea of forcing God's agenda forward seems arrogant in the extreme. You'd expect this from works of fiction, not real live people.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#40983: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:29:49 PM

Seems like some folks are rooting for it to happen as soon as possible. I guess they find the world too sinful to continue to exist, or maybe they want to take the fast track to heaven via the Rapture. Who knows?

"I'm convinced of my self-righteous holiness right now, so God better take us all away before I go and sin again."

edited 18th Nov '12 6:30:27 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
#40984: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:32:23 PM

In any event, your mostly going to find that kind of attitude among the more traditional Southern Baptists and certain subgroups of evangelicals, both of which Murdoch most certainly is not.

[up] Much more common, in my experience, is "the world is damning itself deeper and deeper every day. The sooner we end it, the fewer rot in hell".

Personally I'd be more inclined to think "there's so many unsaved people: we can't let it end while there's still hope for them" but the other side does have a certain pessimistic logic to it.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:35:43 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#40985: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:44:17 PM

Well, there is an unstated corollary that the person making the assertion is going to heaven. It gets a bit self-righteous even with the best of intentions.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40986: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:46:36 PM

Remember when this thread was about politics and not religion? :D

#40987: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:47:06 PM

[up][up] Well, sure, if you define "self-righteous" as "believing oneself to be correct" and then consider that a bad thing.

[up] Unfortunately, those tend to be rather closely linked topics in the US right now.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:47:36 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40988: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:48:13 PM

To an extent, but I think that we're bordering on a theology discussion, rather than approaching this as "how the right views religion and politics."

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40989: Nov 18th 2012 at 6:50:11 PM

Well when one side bases a large amount of what it does on religion I feel like theology discussions are natural. Understanding the way a person thinks is important and religion is one of the big factors influencing through processes.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#40990: Nov 18th 2012 at 8:57:59 PM

Obama is the least effective antichrist ever. Plus he doesn't even have 7 heads.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
Unchanging Avatar.
#40991: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:01:16 PM

Yeah, but this is getting to become the political views of a tiny percentage of the religious Right. Most conservatives don't think like this, AFAIK. I don't think it really affects policy or politics.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40992: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:05:07 PM

[up][up]

Cracked agrees.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#40993: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:23:41 PM

Cracked kind of sucks for anything beyond cheap laughs.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40994: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:31:07 PM

[up]

A humor site fails to deliver anything but humor!

Next you'll tell me the latest SAW movie failed to provide anything but horror!

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#40995: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:34:34 PM

Unlike the Onion, Cracked has pretences of giving information and subverting commonly held misconceptions; they even "source" their claims. That is reason enough to expect some rigour. A "Just Joking" Justification won't cut it.

edited 18th Nov '12 9:34:44 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40996: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:49:21 PM

[up]

Not really. Its still a Comedy Site.

How Cracked and the Onion do humor is different, but they are both still Comedy Sites

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#40997: Nov 18th 2012 at 9:58:22 PM

Because they do things differently, they should be held to different standards. Implying that, because they both attempt to be funny, they should not be held responsible for their words, is fallacious, at best.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Barkey Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#40998: Nov 18th 2012 at 10:07:47 PM

I like cracked, because I don't take it seriously and enjoy their humor.

I'm not looking for my news there, I'm looking for funny shit. If I want news, I'll read the news.

The Onion tends to perform its humor by performing so identically with real world news that it's almost believable sometimes. Cracked doesn't have that pretense, it's just funny lists and videos people make, and they come from a very large pool of contributors, which means that much like running a gauntlet of stand-up comedians, some of them will suck.

If you want to talk about false pretenses, the Onion is much more guilty. I remember many years ago when I saw them put up a page that was absolutely identical to the CNN website, in every way, that was airing an article about the dead getting up and attacking people. I was amazed at how legit it looked and going "Zombies, really?" until I looked at the URL and saw it was from the onions website. Cracked isn't really satire, but a different form of humor. The Onion is very effective and realistic satire.

edited 18th Nov '12 10:11:21 PM by Barkey

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40999: Nov 18th 2012 at 10:08:55 PM

[up]

This. Thank you @ Barkey.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#41000: Nov 18th 2012 at 10:16:28 PM

To give you a counterexample, people are said rely on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report for news more than they do on official, "serious" news, and they trust them more, too. This is because, besides being humorous (which isn't very difficult with news; just point out incongruities), their stories are often factual, and they don't hold back on analysing them and pointing out the emperor's clothes.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

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