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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#40926: Nov 18th 2012 at 2:13:45 PM

@Stocks: They exist because a corporation has no assets to start with; it gets provided with equity from members that contribute to it.

@Electoral absentees article: This is why I say electors have to be abolished, regardless of the status of electoral college.

I really hope they drop this stunt. There's minor precedents of faithless electors, but never has there been an attempt to shut down the whole college.

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#40927: Nov 18th 2012 at 2:18:33 PM

  • Sigh* Why do I even look at the comment section on those things anymore? TV Tropes has spoiled me.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#40928: Nov 18th 2012 at 2:55:46 PM

[up][up][up]Wow. Bob Page has nothing on you, Mr.President.

Delusion is a wonderful thing.tongue

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40929: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:04:02 PM

[up][up][up] It'd never work. even the republicans arnt that stupid. If they even made a serious attempt, I think a good number of House republicans would vote for obama just so as to not commit political suicide. No dems or independents would vote for them and I think most republicans would be revolted by such an action.

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#40930: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:06:33 PM

If it did happen, we'd get to see every Republican who didn't vote for an overthrow of the democratic process branded a RINO.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40931: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:15:09 PM

in the house theres 201 republicans, 190 democrats, 5 vacancies yet to be decided. at the very worst, we'd need 16 republicans to not try to destroy the core of our nations values. at the very best, we'd need only 6.

Edit- Wait a minute, hold the phone. Thanks to Checks and Balances, The Supreme Court could declare the whole thing Un-Constitutional and FORCE the states to send their electors.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:17:40 PM by Joesolo

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40932: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:18:45 PM

Where are you getting the numbers on the Republicans? They have over 230 seats.

[up]You know the supreme court is mostly Republican right?

edited 18th Nov '12 3:19:02 PM by Kostya

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40933: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:21:39 PM

...mother fuckers...

I got the numbers from the election, forgot we'd be using the current congress. Crap.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:22:26 PM by Joesolo

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HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#40934: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:22:03 PM

Gah. Georgia's government, stop being so stupid.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#40936: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:29:26 PM

I was referring to that article Taoist linked that talked about how their state Senate had some meeting to discuss Obama conspiracy theories.

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#40937: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:30:38 PM

I don't know if I am being naive, but I reckon/hope that Even Evil Has Standards and even the Republicans/Romney would not seize power in a manner that they knew was illegitimate.

Arguably, that the choice of president reflects the choice of the people is a constitutional convention anyway.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40938: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:35:23 PM

Honestly I'm kind of hoping they try. I don't want them to succeed but if they try then it could be the final nail in the coffin for them and we could finally convince people that they're really dangerous and shouldn't be in charge.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#40939: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:38:30 PM

Um, didn't Romney already concede the election? Like, he's not running anymore?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40940: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:41:23 PM

Do you think that will stop them? They can vote for whomever they want to win. Since they don't need to worry about drawing in independents anymore they could just pick Santorum.

Also I expect Romney would take it if offered given how he's been acting since the loss.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#40941: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:42:07 PM

[up][up]

Yes.

Though ever since he's been throwing out new explanations for why he lost weekly.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:56:10 PM by Midgetsnowman

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#40942: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:42:27 PM

Romney has been kinda bitching about loosing and blaming it on the voters, but many rank and file Republicans have been telling him to shut up and move on.

[up]DAMN NINJA

[down],[down][down]This is what I meant.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:47:01 PM by tclittle

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#40943: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:44:21 PM

How do you even blame losing an election on the voters? They were the ones you were supposed to please. That's like blaming the failure of Hostess on the consumers.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#40944: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:45:26 PM

"I lost an election because voters didn't vote for me", is his idea?

Well, sorry democracy doesn't work for you, brodem.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40945: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:48:38 PM

Romney is pretty much stamping his feet and throwing a tantrum because things didn't go his way. It's childish and is yet more proof that he would make a terrible president.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#40946: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:48:56 PM

If they tried couldn't Obama have they arrested for treason? I mean they are trying to overthrow the elected government of the United States.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
#40947: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:52:10 PM

It's not really any different from the democrats' talk after the 2010 midterms. Every politician is convinced that they represent the Will Of The People™, so when they lose they always look to some external factor rather than admit that maybe a good chunk of the population doesn't actually support their agenda.

[up] Thanks to certain abuses by the British crown back in the day, it is very hard to convict someone of treason in the US.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:55:20 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40948: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:53:23 PM

[up][up]Sure why not. They already see him as a dictator. I guess he might as well behave like one.

[up]Did some of them seriously try and find ways to subvert that? That is just ridiculous.

However it does not change that this shit is illegal and is not something a first world country should be doing.

edited 18th Nov '12 3:57:36 PM by Kostya

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#40949: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:56:35 PM

It could be considered treason, yes. Arresting the quantity of people involved would be very draconian, though.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
#40950: Nov 18th 2012 at 3:58:57 PM

[up][up] Oh, I don't know about actual schemes to change the outcome. Probably, but I don't follow the websites of left-wing crazies or right-wing watchdogs so I wouldn't know. I was referring to the excuses and the denial from Romney and others. People were saying that it is childish or improper of him, so I was pointing out that it is par for the course for any losing party.

[up] From what I understand, it couldn't. Treason very specifically requires you to be involved in actual war against the US. Rigging elections doesn't cut it.

edited 18th Nov '12 4:00:13 PM by EdwardsGrizzly

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