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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Wow. Bob Page has nothing on you, Mr.President.
Delusion is a wonderful thing.
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It'd never work. even the republicans arnt that stupid. If they even made a serious attempt, I think a good number of House republicans would vote for obama just so as to not commit political suicide. No dems or independents would vote for them and I think most republicans would be revolted by such an action.
If it did happen, we'd get to see every Republican who didn't vote for an overthrow of the democratic process branded a RINO.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.in the house theres 201 republicans, 190 democrats, 5 vacancies yet to be decided. at the very worst, we'd need 16 republicans to not try to destroy the core of our nations values. at the very best, we'd need only 6.
Edit- Wait a minute, hold the phone. Thanks to Checks and Balances, The Supreme Court could declare the whole thing Un-Constitutional and FORCE the states to send their electors.
edited 18th Nov '12 3:17:40 PM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaackI don't know if I am being naive, but I reckon/hope that Even Evil Has Standards and even the Republicans/Romney would not seize power in a manner that they knew was illegitimate.
Arguably, that the choice of president reflects the choice of the people is a constitutional convention anyway.
Schild und Schwert der ParteiRomney has been kinda bitching about loosing and blaming it on the voters, but many rank and file Republicans have been telling him to shut up and move on.
DAMN NINJA
edited 18th Nov '12 3:47:01 PM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."It's not really any different from the democrats' talk after the 2010 midterms. Every politician is convinced that they represent the Will Of The People™, so when they lose they always look to some external factor rather than admit that maybe a good chunk of the population doesn't actually support their agenda.
Thanks to certain abuses by the British crown back in the day, it is very hard to convict someone of treason in the US.
edited 18th Nov '12 3:55:20 PM by EdwardsGrizzly
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Sure why not. They already see him as a dictator. I guess he might as well behave like one.
Did some of them seriously try and find ways to subvert that? That is just ridiculous.
However it does not change that this shit is illegal and is not something a first world country should be doing.
edited 18th Nov '12 3:57:36 PM by Kostya
It could be considered treason, yes. Arresting the quantity of people involved would be very draconian, though.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
Oh, I don't know about actual schemes to change the outcome. Probably, but I don't follow the websites of left-wing crazies or right-wing watchdogs so I wouldn't know. I was referring to the excuses and the denial from Romney and others. People were saying that it is childish or improper of him, so I was pointing out that it is par for the course for any losing party.
From what I understand, it couldn't. Treason very specifically requires you to be involved in actual war against the US. Rigging elections doesn't cut it.
edited 18th Nov '12 4:00:13 PM by EdwardsGrizzly
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@Stocks: They exist because a corporation has no assets to start with; it gets provided with equity from members that contribute to it.
@Electoral absentees article: This is why I say electors have to be abolished, regardless of the status of electoral college.
I really hope they drop this stunt. There's minor precedents of faithless electors, but never has there been an attempt to shut down the whole college.