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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40751: Nov 17th 2012 at 2:54:38 PM

Romney's a pampered plutocrat who's pissed that he couldn't get what he wanted this time around. It's as simple as that.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#40752: Nov 17th 2012 at 2:59:11 PM

i think, given that they handle infrastructure for just about every site started after 2006-8, Amazon has better claim to that title

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
#40753: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:04:22 PM

Lobbyists do indeed write a lot of unfortunate legislation, but that's only half of the picture: for every issue there are also lobbyists on your side. Ban lobbyists, and special interests will still run the government, except only one side of each issue will have a voice: whichever one gets its foot in the door first.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40754: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:04:41 PM

I don't like lobbyists. Period. Even for "my" side.

As they are right now, they serve no purpose other than to further special interest.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:11:58 PM by Serocco

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#40755: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:10:56 PM

^

Do you like the idea of Consultation*

for Regulations and Laws?

Keep Rolling On
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40756: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:12:35 PM

That's fine. It's bureaucratic as all-hell, but it slows things down just enough for the special interests to stay put.

I have a question - how do you achieve peace in the Middle East?

edited 17th Nov '12 3:22:59 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#40757: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:25:07 PM

Chop up the entire region into small islands that you then scatter around the world's oceans, isolated from each other.

Barring that, make oil obsolete and get the hell out.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40758: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:26:11 PM

The main issue is probably fundamentalism within religion.

Remove religion (not faith - religion) and you'll see a lot less vitriol.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#40759: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:29:15 PM

No, religion will simply be replaced with irredentism, water etc.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40760: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:29:51 PM

Achieve peace? Well I'd say they need to be modernized. In their current state they're a bit too insulated and are in a hotly contested region on top of that. Giving them things like the internet and college educations along with better access to the outside world would probably help them learn how to get along with their neighbors more.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40761: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:31:01 PM
Thumped: Extreme positions are not tolerated here. We don't care if they're sincere or you're just trolling. Either way, the forums don't need this sort of thing.
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40762: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:32:09 PM

Why are you suddenly talking like a neocon?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40763: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:32:23 PM

[up][up]

Genocide solves everything. [tup]

edited 17th Nov '12 3:32:51 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40764: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:33:15 PM
Thumped: This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping. Stay on topic, please.
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40765: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:35:43 PM

Serocco: That depends on whether or not you mean in our lifetimes. In time I expect they would but it's too far into the future for us to expect to see it. Right now all we can do is try and lay the groundwork for it to eventually happen.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#40766: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:36:22 PM

Well, bombing them only makes us the bad guys. Also, I'm surprised at you for this. Seriously, what the fuck? It's bad enough when you go extremely unrealistically to the left, but "bombing them" is such a moronic non answer that I'm sick of hearing.

And yes, they can stop being fundamentalist. It's going to take time, and a lot of work. Doing things like providing help with infrastructure and education will help with that. But giving into bigoted statements like the ones you've just stated helps absolutely nothing, Serocco.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40767: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:36:38 PM

[up][up][up]

No, but do you really think blowing up the entire region is gonna solve anything?

What nation is even dumb enough to do that?

edited 17th Nov '12 3:37:00 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40768: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:38:20 PM

@Deviant: Certain individuals in the US probably want to although they won't actually come out and say it since it would be beyond stupid.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:38:37 PM by Kostya

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40769: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:38:48 PM

Our ancestors kicked out the natives and attempted to remove their cultural identity.

We sent two bombs to Japan, massacring hundreds of thousands. We refused to take refugees that wanted sanctuary from the Nazi onslaught. We interned Japanese Americans purely for their heritage.

We were never really "good guys" to begin with.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:41:50 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#40770: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:39:41 PM

And some who will gladly come out and say it

luckily were sane enough that few if any of them get elected to anything.

[up] Alternative was a bloody invasion that likely would have Leveled the entire country and left tens of millions dead. Plus the actual invasion called for more nukes anyway.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:41:20 PM by Joesolo

I'm baaaaaaack
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#40771: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:40:24 PM

And now you're Godwinning with Native American flavor, Serocco. Let's not go down that road, and talk like civilized people, yeah? Without suggesting anyone bomb the shit out of anyone, preferably.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40772: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:41:31 PM

You are really fucking oversimplifying history. I don't think anybody is saying the US has been a paragon of the world but saying we've never done good things is overly cynical even if we didn't always do them for the right reasons. Also there were other factors involved in the bombing of Japan but I'm not going into that.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:42:09 PM by Kostya

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40773: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:42:07 PM

I still think this Palestinian/Israeli conflict would be over if Ariel Sharon hadn't had that stroke.

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40774: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:42:57 PM

As awful as the bombing were, the nukes serve a purpose - to intimidate other nations, including nuclear powers themselves. Nobody is stupid enough to cause a nuclear holocaust. Some will use nukes eventually, but you won't find any sovereign nation doing so. The memory of Nagasaki and Hiroshima is still fresh in their minds.

On the other hand, we evidently are stupid enough to hammer the idea that Iran is building a nuke, or in the process of building a nuke, even though they're not. Attacking Iran in any way would force Russia and China to get involved, triggering what many would feel to be a third world war.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:45:34 PM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#40775: Nov 17th 2012 at 3:45:01 PM

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. Also, this seems to be straying afar from the topic.

Also, you just fucking suggested we do exactly that. Bomb the shit out of some place in the middle east, and let whatever happens happen. Make up your damn mind. Also, take a break until you can make some damn sense.

edited 17th Nov '12 3:46:00 PM by AceofSpades


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