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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#40676: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:04:06 PM

I think the most sensible reform we could make to gun buying would to require everyone to take a gun safety course before buying one.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#40677: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:06:14 PM

Isn't that mandatory already?

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#40678: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:11:34 PM

[up] Nope.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#40679: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:14:00 PM

No, it is not, but it should be. I think it's reasonable though. You need to pass a test to drive a car after all.

edited 16th Nov '12 8:14:32 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#40680: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:18:55 PM

What's with US lacking simple reforms like gun safety and voting holiday?

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#40681: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:22:05 PM

What exactly has he done? Has he ever even held public office or is he just running this no new taxes organization?
Technically he only runs this anti-tax lobbyist group. In practice however, he basically is one of the major people who decides who gets to be a Republican representative, as if you don't follow his golden calf of no new taxes, he'll do his best to make sure you get destroyed the next election cycle for not doing so.

You see how all the Republicans in Congress are beholden to no new taxes, even if it would be a really really good idea? It's 'cuz of him.

What's with US lacking simple reforms like gun safety and voting holiday?
1. Arguably really ass backwards interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. And essentially a major lobbying group for guns and firearms who see any attempt at gun safety as a scheme by the federal government to mass -disarm the entire populace and create a totalitarian gun-less dictatorship police state.

2. That I don't know. Not enough action probably, state rights, and OMG VOTER FRAUD likely factor into it.

edited 16th Nov '12 8:25:18 PM by PotatoesRock

QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#40682: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:22:36 PM

[up][up][up] I'd push the reflexion further by saying that cars can kill, and guns are designed to kill.

Definitely agree with that idea, giving a gun to anyone just isn't a good idea.

edited 16th Nov '12 8:22:42 PM by QuestionMarc

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40683: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:30:24 PM

But "The right to drive automobiles" is not in the US constitution.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40684: Nov 16th 2012 at 8:35:50 PM

Senate, House resolutions back Israel’s actions in Gaza

Governor Rick Scott: Get over the election

edited 16th Nov '12 8:47:17 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Skatepunk Since: Feb, 2011
#40685: Nov 16th 2012 at 9:44:05 PM

Although feeling pessimistic about the scam both parties might attempt to pull at the end of the year, there are a few good signs, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

At least 19 Senate Democrats pledges to block any and all attempts to change/cut Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.

Also, the AARP is running ads warning people to tell Congress not to do a "last minute deal" that cuts Medicare.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#40686: Nov 16th 2012 at 10:10:29 PM

I just cant believe Norquist has so much power.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40687: Nov 16th 2012 at 10:21:38 PM

TBH, we don't know how much power Norquist has. Rather, the interests that Norquist is a part of have a lot of power-but we don't know whether, absent Norquist, said interests would have that much less power.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#40688: Nov 16th 2012 at 11:10:17 PM

@Gun control: We should require psychological review as well as gun safety, first.

@Israel: Do we know who voted for or against that resolution?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#40689: Nov 16th 2012 at 11:20:37 PM

What's with US lacking simple reforms like gun safety and voting holiday?

You need a huge body of screaming looneys to get any kind of change, so the mellow decisions don't get made.

Fight smart, not fair.
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#40690: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:28:39 AM

@why sensible things don't pass:

Competing interests within the political party. In a two-party system, single-issue parties do not exist, so a party is a conglomeration of several different interest groups. The Democratic party, for example, consists of blacks, hispanics, college students, single-women, pro-choice, health care reformists, union-members, criminal defense lawyers, and LGBT. That's the core of the party. The Republicans have pro-gun owners, pro-life, business owners, the religious, Cubans, and those who make more than $75,000 a year.

Each of those interest groups are focused on their own issues. Unless the issues specifically pertain to those groups, legislation will not be put forth unless it's necessary for the running of government.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40691: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:47:03 AM

[up][up][up]

Submitted in the Senate, considered, and agreed to without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.\

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40692: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:48:44 AM

November 6th = American Elections.

November 14th = Ahmed Jabari, Palestinian Defense Minister is killed.

November 15th - Rockets target Tel Aviv.

November 16th - Israel Calls Up Reservists.

January 22nd = Israeli General Election.

You know the sure-fire way to win re-election? War. Franklin Roosevelt, George W Bush and Margaret Thatcher can attest to that.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#40693: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:49:21 AM

I'm pretty sure WWII had nothing to do with an election.

And the Palestinians started to bomb Israel first. But let's not get into this.

Israel vs. Palestine discussions never end well. Let's just agree that the other person is horribly wrong and there's nothing we can do to change that.

edited 17th Nov '12 12:50:33 AM by Completion

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40694: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:51:04 AM

Roosevelt lost a lot of people when he tried to stack the Supreme Court with judges that supported the New Deal. Under normal circumstances, the man would've lost re-election.

Hell, running for a third term prompted his own Vice President into running against him.

edited 17th Nov '12 12:52:11 AM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#40695: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:52:36 AM

You have no idea about that.

Plus, he was already well into his, what, second or third term when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor? It was well established then that if he could live forever, he'd be president forever.

Bush won because of 9/11. Not Iraq. Iraq was deeply unpopular and was the reason why that election was as close as it was.

edited 17th Nov '12 12:55:00 AM by Completion

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#40696: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:54:57 AM

really hoping someone in Washington will put their foot down to Israel, not that it'd ever happen, but it sure would be nice if we stopped ignoring the bullshit they're pulling just because they have a Dark and Troubled Past and they're only doing the exact same thing we did when we got here.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#40697: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:55:39 AM

Let's not discuss Israel.

I'm pro-Israel. You're pro-Palestine. This is like the abortion topic. Please.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#40698: Nov 17th 2012 at 12:58:00 AM

I'm not Anti-Israel, I'm Anti-oppression, there's a difference.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40699: Nov 17th 2012 at 1:00:04 AM

Roosevelt's second term: Faced opposition from the Supreme Court over the New Deal. Lost support from within his own party over court packing scheme. Pro-New Deal Democrats lost six Senate seats and 71 House seats during the midterm elections. Senator Robert Taft formed a coalition between southern Democrats and Republicans to block further New Deal policies. The minimum wage law of 1938 was the last substantial New Deal reform act passed by Congress.

One year after, World War II broke out. The fall of Paris shocked American opinion, and isolationist sentiment declined. A consensus was clear that military spending had to be dramatically expanded. Both parties gave support to his plans for a rapid build-up the American military. Roosevelt ran for office again, spurning Democratic candidates who wanted the White House for themselves, and agitating those who felt he was too imperialist in his campaign for another term.

edited 17th Nov '12 1:05:25 AM by Serocco

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#40700: Nov 17th 2012 at 1:04:26 AM

His elections were in '32, '36, '40, and '44. Each election he won in a landslide over over 430 electoral votes. In '36, he won the election with only eight votes away from the full total of 538. His popular vote count never went below 55%.


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