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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#40301: Nov 14th 2012 at 1:36:59 PM

Well... on the face of it, that's a good look at the problem. Interesting about ORCA — I knew it had problems, but didn't realise how sodding huge they were. tongue

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#40302: Nov 14th 2012 at 1:38:59 PM

Well, you can buy Navy warships from the mod.gov.uk website. tongue

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#40303: Nov 14th 2012 at 2:36:27 PM

[up][up]

Thats the problem when you base most of your campaign around best wishes and hopes. Reality has a bad tendency of biting you in the ass and laughing at you.

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#40304: Nov 14th 2012 at 2:45:56 PM

Matt Yglesias on Mitt Romney's comment regarding the "gifts" that Obama's given.

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40305: Nov 14th 2012 at 3:45:15 PM

I told you guys that Susana Rice's connections to the Benghazi debacle would become an issue.

And now Obama has entered the fray.

In other news:

George Allen: ‘I have no intention of running for office again’

Maine’s Angus King to Caucus With Senate Democrats

Nancy Pelosi to stay on as House minority leader

Rand Paul Vows To Push GOP on Drugs and Immigration

Senator John Cornyn Named As Senate Minority Whip

Ron Paul: Internet is alternative to 'government media complex' that controls the news

At least he didn't call it a 'series of tubes'.

edited 14th Nov '12 3:53:05 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40306: Nov 14th 2012 at 3:46:38 PM

So... is he arguing against Net Neutrality, or is he arguing against SOPA?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40307: Nov 14th 2012 at 3:48:57 PM

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Both I assume.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#40308: Nov 14th 2012 at 3:57:53 PM

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who knows. I stopped trying to understand Ron paul or his fans a long time ago.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40309: Nov 14th 2012 at 3:58:01 PM

I'm pro net neutrality anti-SOPA, personally.

Net Neutrality is government regulation that gives the PEOPLE freedom, instead of the Internet Service Providers.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40310: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:07:01 PM

I don't really trust The Government or Internet Service Provider with the Internet, but at least the Internet service providers seem to have a far firmer grasp on what the Internet is and aren't trying to force down stupid Internet copyright laws.

So I guess I'm anti-net neutrality.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid calls Scott Brown ‘one of the most partisan people’ to ever serve in the Senate

Reid really doesn't want Kerry to go.

Bob McDonnell was top choice for attorney general in Romney Cabinet

edited 14th Nov '12 4:14:11 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#40311: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:13:33 PM

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actually,. most internet providers are only really interested in making money off the net.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40312: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:14:23 PM

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And? That doesn't really address any of my points.

edited 14th Nov '12 4:19:34 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#40313: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:28:02 PM

Most of the IS Ps are tied to Hollywood studios (or parts of the same conglomerate) who want to censor the internet to death.

Government can be persuaded to not be dumb fucks about the internet with action and votes.

Lesser evil, et al.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#40314: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:36:35 PM

Also, IS Ps have been known to engage in unsavory practices at the expense of customers.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40315: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:37:41 PM

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I need a source.

As it stands nothing the US government has done has given me any faith that giving them more power over the Internet is anything but a bad idea.

edited 14th Nov '12 4:38:34 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40316: Nov 14th 2012 at 4:37:57 PM

Yeah, the IS Ps HAVE already utilized various Bit Torrent tracking tech. So... in terms of stuff actually PASSED, Private is more oppressive than public.

So yeah.

Net Neutrality is a proposed rule that would prohibit IS Ps from giving preference to one site over another in terms of who gets bandwidth. I recommend wikipediing it, since that's a really bad summary on my part.

edited 14th Nov '12 4:38:50 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#40317: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:00:45 PM

Deviant, do Wiki walking on Wikipedia. It's pretty much public knowledge.

Main ones off my head is Time Warner Cable is still likely tightly associated to Time Warner Inc. NBC Universal is owned by Comcast. I'm pretty sure there's others.

Linhasxoc Since: Jun, 2009
#40318: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:04:15 PM

So, for example, Comcast owns NBC. Without net neutrality, they could legally give preferential treatment to NBC-related services and/or throttle competing services on their Internet service. In theory, markets should prevent this sort of thing (i.e. if anyone gets too cute, people will all jump ship to their competitors) but in many markets broadband Internet service is an oligopoly if not an outright monopoly.

The argument against net neutrality seems to focus on controlling bandwidth, since streaming video and such is going to clog up all the Internet tubes note . They may have a point, but considering that the IS Ps seem to go out of their way to not upgrade their network infrastructure (it's a widely-known fact among techie circles that the U.S. has some of the worst broadband among so-called "first-world" countries) I'm not too sympathetic.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40319: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:04:30 PM

Posted in the wrong thread again. tongue

edited 14th Nov '12 5:05:39 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40320: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:10:34 PM

Yeah, Obama's not gonna raise rates. Would rather go for "loopholes" and "deductions". No shock there.

Also, back at the first debate, Jim Lehrer said "Do you see a major difference between the two of you on Social Security?" Romney's position is to cut Social Security.

Obama's response? "I suspect that we've got a similar position." So what does that say about what Obama wants to do to Social Security?

edited 14th Nov '12 5:15:45 PM by Serocco

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40321: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:22:30 PM

Well, Obama does want to raise the retirement age I guess.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40322: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:23:11 PM

Here's how they'll cut the social programs: they'll raise the Medicare retirement age from 65 to 67, and they'll change the cost of living adjustment on Social Security.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40323: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:25:09 PM

Sounds about right. Not a good idea mind you, but sounds like something they might do.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#40324: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:27:49 PM

Should we raise retirement rates?

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#40325: Nov 14th 2012 at 5:28:52 PM

I think they will do that. It's not necessarily defunding, as they almost certainly will for Medicade.

[up] No. Not at all. Raising the retirement age deducts a large percentage of money that we would've earned by then.

edited 14th Nov '12 5:30:16 PM by Serocco

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