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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Just subtly spread associations and try to get to the point that when anyone hears the man talk, they think of nothing but this video. Problem solved.
Last year, these were the proposed cuts to be included in the Grand Bargain:
$40B in federal pensions. $11B Military Retirement. $20 - $127 in Snap Benefits (AKA the food stamps). $30B in Agricultural Subsidies. $200 - $300B in Healthcare cuts. Source is from Huffington Post.
By contrast, if upper-income tax cuts expire, we would get $950B in extra revenue. Source for that is from CBO.
So, why do the Grand Bargain if we were gonna get more revenue from letting the tax cuts expire?
edited 12th Nov '12 5:08:19 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
For those that don't wanna read - Obama is considering Howard Berman, a supporter of SOPA, to be the next Secretary of State following Hillary's resignation. One of the duties of State Secretary is to spearhead global Internet policy.
The fact that Obama's even considering Berman for that position should speak volumes over Obama's true proprieties. After all, Hollywood really likes to censor shit on the internet, and they contribute heavily to Democrats' elections. How's that for "Change?"
edited 12th Nov '12 5:15:47 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.If I recall, the most likely (or at least most talked about) possible replacements for Hillary are Jon Kerry, Susan Rice, Tom Donilon, and Jon Huntsman.
David Petraeus was also a candidate, but in light of recent events its not likely.
I think Tom Donilon is gonna get it. He has the least amount of baggage.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:23:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I would prefer Jon Huntsman, really. He at least has experience in ambassadorial duties.
You're naive if you're not even concerned by the idea that Mister SOPA himself is gonna be the State Secretary, which has say in negotiating internet policy among U.S. allies and the U.S. itself.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:28:26 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl."The fact that Obama's even considering Berman for that position should speak volumes over Obama's true proprieties."
The whole point of a petition like this is to convince him otherwise. SOPA itself was in consideration phase before many in Congress dropped it and the bill was scrapped. Likewise, I want to give the president a chance to reconsider and not want to accuse him about his true proprieties.
If Obama does select Berman and he does proceed with his Internet policy, then I will start to feel dubious about the president's priorities, and wonder if he is overstepping things after his electoral victory.
Looking at Berman's Wikipedia page I can see he has some pros.
However there are a lot of Red Flags
edited 12th Nov '12 5:30:04 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016How do you get a president to back down into accepting a resignation? If the climate change denialists were able to get Obama to drop Van Jones, progressive should be able to get him to drop Howard Berman should Berman be chosen.
That's a lot of speculation, as he's just being considered right now. And "the face that he's even being considered" doesn't mean anything. Of course a SOPA supporter would be in the shortlist of candidates; big money backs SOPA, big money will find someone Obama might consider as sec of state. That's Washington culture.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.![]()
Berman was also one of the guys that called and pushed for war against Iraq. He even rejected a proposal for a timetable of a withdrawal. And now, he's being considered for the position of State Secretary. Again, no concerns at all from you people?
Not every culture is right, either.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:34:46 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.I swear you two are paranoid to the extreme. Just because one of Obama's possible candidates is Mr. SOPA doesn't mean he's gearing up for his totalitarian regime nor does it mean this guy is his primary choice. Has it ever occurred to you that the President might be intentionally choosing people he doesn't agree with because he wants someone to give him a different perspective on things rather than a bunch of yes men? I'm fairly certain he said he didn't support SOPA when it was still being debated.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:36:29 PM by Kostya
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I agree; Washington's political culture is particularly toxic. But Obama has to work in it. He can't change it much from within. It's up to the citizenry to force change upon it from the outside. Let's recognize where the problem is.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:36:43 PM by RadicalTaoist
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.![]()
Excuses, excuses. I know it's still a maybe, but the fact that he's even considered a "maybe" annoys me. He wanted war in Iraq, number one, so that should automatically disqualify him from political office for the rest of his life.
How can we change the status quo, when those working within the status quo do not want to change the status quo?
edited 12th Nov '12 5:39:06 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.![]()
So did Biden from what I remember hearing. Same with tons of other Democratic candidates when it comes to both Iraq and SOPA. You might as well throw out everyone in Washington since I'm certain every single one has supported at least one thing that you would deem reprehensible. It's about the big picture.
What? Choosing someone that does not perfectly match your views and will debate stuff with you is the definition of not having yes men. I'm not saying Obama and this guy don't have any common ground but saying they agree on these things with no evidence strikes me as silly.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:42:05 PM by Kostya
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All I see from the big picture is this: You voted for an illegal war that caused hundreds of thousands to die over a ridiculous reason. Whether it's Berman, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Obama, Biden or Clinton - you vote yes for a war, and you should be run out of town.
edited 12th Nov '12 5:45:06 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.

Pardon my bluntness but...
Can Grover fuck off and die already?