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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#39776: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:30:58 PM

@Grizzly: Exactly where do you live, out of curiosity? I know that it's a rural area, but that doesn't really mean much.

The rural area where I'm living right now is full of very nice people and it's a decent community, but they also host a drag show at the local bar, and tend to vote Democrat. The area where I grew up was full of the sort of racist extreme-right people that we're talking about.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39777: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:33:31 PM

Conservatives aren't white supremacists. But Karl Rove knows who his particular ideology appeals to. Appealing to white voters isn't white supremacy, it just happens to line up with white supremacists.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#39778: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:36:48 PM

I like how Louisiana wants to secede even after how much the fed helped after Katrina.

edited 11th Nov '12 3:36:59 PM by Thorn14

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#39779: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:39:38 PM

@Greenmantle: While I don't think we're headed to the point where people could be executed for disagreeing with Lord Herman Cain or the Almighty Michelle Bachmann... it's not particularly reassuring, no.

It continues to amaze me how credulously some of you buy into the "conservatives are White Supremacists seeking to institute a fascist theocracy" scare mongering

Personally, I don't really buy that. I just think the GOP has done a really poor job presenting their case to secular folks and minorities.

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#39780: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:46:38 PM

@Grizzly: By their deeds shall ye know them. I think I'm (badly) paraphrasing some book that you might have heard of.

The point isn't that Republicans as a whole are evil. The point is that their platform includes positions that are at the very least misguided and at the very worst outright malicious, and their base follows along in seemingly willful ignorance of this.

Although I have to note here that GOP voters turned out in lower numbers in this election than in 2008, so it may be that many of them were turned away from the polls by their party's platform. That bodes well for a return to sanity in American politics.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#39781: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:47:39 PM

Thorn; Not Louisianna. Some guy disgruntled with the election that happens to live in Louisianna and has no position of actual power decided to create a non binding petition. Don't blow up the importance of this particular bit of idiocy.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#39782: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:48:14 PM

@Thorn: 25k people is like..not even a percent of the population.

#39783: Nov 11th 2012 at 3:59:22 PM

@Midget: That's a strange sort of circular reasoning. If you don't already have a stereotype of minorities as lazy bums, there's no reason to think a statement about "wellfare queens" is racially charged.

ten bucks says theyre nice to you because you share at least some of their views. if I told them I wasnt christian and voted for Obama, I'd wager at best theyd tell me they would "pray for my soul"

My social circle includes members of many different religions and political persuasions, and we all manage to get along in relative harmony despite many of us believing that each other are deeply, horribly wrong and occasionally engaging in heated arguments. It's called basic decency, and at least where I live it's a thing that exists.

Exactly where do you live, out of curiosity? I know that it's a rural area, but that doesn't really mean much.

In a deeply red, mountainous part of the southeast. Mostly white, with hispanics being the largest minority group. Overwhelmingly Christian. I'd rather not be more specific than that, to preserve what anonymity I can. If you can infer more than that from my posts you are welcome to.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#39784: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:03:07 PM

According to NBC 29% of California still hasn't reported their totals. When are they going to get around to doing this?

Were a state of over 30 million, things take time here okay?

edited 11th Nov '12 4:03:18 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#39785: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:05:26 PM

@Grizz: Okay, because I have some extended family in Virginia and West Virginia, and people are a lot less conservative out there than in Oklahoma. Heck, even Georgia is less right than Oklahoma is.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
#39786: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:07:09 PM

Although I have to note here that GOP voters turned out in lower numbers in this election than in 2008, so it may be that many of them were turned away from the polls by their party's platform. That bodes well for a return to sanity in American politics.

Many of us were, but not necessarily in the way you hope. The biggest turn-offs to many people I know (myself included, though I voted anyway) were this year's weak stance on abortion, overly harsh stance on immigration, and Romney's perceived general lack of trustworthiness.

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vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
Mystical Monkey Master
#39787: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:09:52 PM

Georgia or Alabama. Maybe Kentucky or Tennessee.

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#39788: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:11:17 PM

^^2/3 is all I personally ask for.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#39789: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:15:05 PM

Gun sales shoot through the roof day after Obama re-election.

Meanwhile at Smith & Wesson, Sturm Ruger & Co., Remington Arms, Colt's Manufacturing Company, etc

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edited 11th Nov '12 4:16:07 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
Mystical Monkey Master
#39790: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:20:11 PM

Guessing where grizz is from

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#39791: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:22:32 PM

@Edwards: While we've acknowledged that abortion is a sticking point for you, the recognition that the GOP is shooting itself in the foot on the immigration issue is at least a step in the right direction. Romney's trustworthiness is another factor we can agree on, although I dare say that few of the candidates who entered the Republican primaries this year would have fared much better.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#39792: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:24:58 PM

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I say it's Tennessee. Possibly Kentucky, Mississippi, or South Carolina .

edited 11th Nov '12 4:25:19 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#39793: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:28:41 PM

Gun sales shoot through the roof day after Obama re-election.

Well, that's one correct prediction by that guy who was linked to a ways back. Let's hope he wasn't right about the ones that will actually be bad if they come true.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39794: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:30:30 PM

I wish the gun people would shut up already. At least the healthcare scaremongering is based on actual policy even if it's a terrible misrepresentation of it. Obama's done nothing relating to guns and hasn't even alluded to possibly doing something.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#39795: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:32:17 PM

Norquist: Lame duck tax hike still unlikely

Iran's Ahmadinejad mocks expense of US election, calling it a 'battleground for capitalists'

edited 11th Nov '12 4:36:51 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39796: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:37:12 PM

After thinking about it I hope Obama calls their bluff. Just let the tax cuts expire and then pass a bill that cuts taxes on the middle class and poor without touching the wealthy at all. Let's see how many Republicans vote against that.

edited 11th Nov '12 4:37:37 PM by Kostya

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#39797: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:49:18 PM

You really aren't going to see compromise if one side is seen by the other as communist traitors and the other side is seen by the first as religious bigots, even if both viewpoints are completely untrue.

That being said, the Republicans are the ones who lost this election, so it is up to them to try to appeal to more people, not the Democrats.

edited 11th Nov '12 4:51:37 PM by GameGuruGG

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39798: Nov 11th 2012 at 4:51:37 PM

I believe most polls show that they lost the popular vote in regards to statewide house elections but due to gerrymandering they have more seats than the Democrats. They really need to fix that.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#39799: Nov 11th 2012 at 5:06:07 PM

@Grizz: I do think probably that Romney lost a significant part of the votes he did because nobody knew where he stood on anything. In this matter, probably Santorum or Paul would have been better candidates, even though everyone thought that either of them would have lost outright (and probably would have). The fact that someone whose policies would change to whatever is popular at that second was the best Republican candidate they could find is a little worrying.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#39800: Nov 11th 2012 at 5:09:12 PM

They really need to pass some kind of law on federal level which instills an independent commission on redistricting.

California and a few other states got that right.


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