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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Anything Obama does would make him look bad to a specific group of people. I was mostly joking though. Honestly if he really wanted to punish them he could just let them secede and deny reentry once they realize they can't function autonomously. I'm not saying he should do that though it's just one option he could take if he wants to prove a point.
edit: Put it this way. If they're not part of the union they get no help from the federal government. All we'd have to do is wait for the next Katrina to come along and make them realize they won't have FEMA to bail them out this time.
edited 11th Nov '12 7:40:18 AM by Kostya
Personally, if they get a million votes, I'd sit up and take notice. But 25,000 isn't even worth mentioning. You could find that many people who want to secede in any state. Besides, didn't Texas almost go blue this year? It wasn't real close, but it was closer than it's ever been.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.My opinion - Let these scum secede - hey don't deserve to call themselves Americans at this point with how they are dragging this nation down, anyway - that goes for everyone who thinks like this and is a Southerner. They have NO place here holding our nation back from making real progress, as far as i'm concerned.
While they're at it, take South Carolina with you - I need to go to a state that will actually offer me healthcare when I need it, anyway. Not when I'm in the emergency room dying because these rich/corporate fuckers want me to, just because I don't have as much fame or money as them - fuck them, at least I have common sense to know that moneyt and fame are just shields from the truth that they are part of the problem for not helping out their fellow man/woman in his/her actual time of need.
The less Southerner/Conservative scum to hold back progress in America, the better. That's the COLD. HARD. TRUTH!
edited 11th Nov '12 7:50:20 AM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacio
True progress and justice come from suffering and learning the truth through that suffering. And by being forced to, they are learning how to fight for true freedom and democracy that most Southerners lack, due to a decent lack of proper education and healthcare access, to name examples.
What I'm saying is, if these Southerners can't get rid of idiots like this, they deserve to be humiliated on a regular basis for not acting fast and fighting accordingly to stamp out such idiocy, especially when it comes from those in power over them.
edited 11th Nov '12 8:05:20 AM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacio
...And I'm thankful for that, but still... These Southerners need to accpet that their ideals are a failure and must be treated as such.
And every day that we can confirm this failure, accept it, and fight back against those holding us back, is one step forward, not just for the South, but for this nation as a whole.
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacioOkay I would only support secession under the following conditions:
1. The state that wishes to secede must provide transport out of state for all those that do not wish to remain in the state afterwards.
2. The state must not attack the US or any of its territories or otherwise impair their ability to function. Doing so will constitute an act of aggression.
3. No federal aid will be given no matter what circumstances. If they desire to be isolationist they must fully commit to it.
4. If, after 5 years, the state wishes to rejoin the US they will be permitted to do so provided they sign a treaty stating they will never secede again and promise to reimburse any who might have been financially burdened by their decision.
edit: Forgot one.
5. If the state comes under attack from an outside force they will not be granted aid from the federal government in any manner unless they agree to rejoin the Union.
edited 11th Nov '12 8:16:02 AM by Kostya
I've got no arguments against any of that!t as long as these suggestion can be paid for and without any begrudging from those who do it...
edited 11th Nov '12 8:16:07 AM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacioHey, what do you guys think of this blog post
?
But people voted for this because they didn’t want to align themselves with racist/sexist/homophobes, like all my gay conservative friends, like the black family who was working phones for Romney alongside the rest of us, like the Philippine lady at the Romney rally crying hysterically and saying that the other guy couldn’t win, because he’s going to destroy us all. Like ALL the women who gave their all to prevent this, because they don’t want their children and grandchildren to live in indentured servitude to the government. (No? What do you call it when someone is forced to perform actions/provide services because the government tells them to, and won’t let them leave? Do you even know that under this administration, if you have unpaid student loans you can’t leave the country? No, not even if that’s your only chance to find a job and pay the loans. What would you call that? You’ve become a serf, attached to the land. You didn’t know? Why not?)
On a concrete level, I'll like you guys' opinions on carbon taxes and if you can't leave the country if you have unpaid student loans.
On a more abstract level, on the "othering" of conservatives, and female, PoC, and LGBT Republicans.
Damn shame that's the truth, but point made
.
For the sake of what little good reputation my poor-ass state has left, I will note that twenty five thousand people is less than one percent of our total population. Pretty sure you could find at least that many blatantly stupid people in any state at any given time. And yes, it is especially ironic considering how dependent we are on government intervention to weather (haw) local environmental disasters. All you have to do is drive down one bumpy, pothole-filled road here to understand why relying on private industry and/or the state government just isn't gonna cut it. We still have major buildings left from Katrina that are abandoned, vine-covered ghosts of architecture.
Re: that blog post, if you don't want to turn it into a 'let's nitpick this all day' thing, you're probably going to want to elaborate on how much of it you agree with and how much of it you disagree with, and why, Chihuahua.
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.
I linked it because it's a rare thing to encounter a conservative opinion in the crowds I hang out with.
Also, an observation I make for both sides: Sometimes concrete evidence is brought up, sometimes it's not. This blog post lacks blue links and hard data, but those certain two points I quoted to stood out because I haven't seen anyone talking about them.
edited 11th Nov '12 8:49:19 AM by chihuahua0

A Bush is not a tree, it's a shrub and, occasionally, a weed.
edited 11th Nov '12 6:45:05 AM by Euodiachloris