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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Krugman continues the talk
about the modern GOP as deeply anti-intellectual.
For their official platform, the Republican Party has adopted Objectivism whole-hog. This is not to say that all Republicans subscribe to this, just as all Democrats don't fully agree with that party's platform. However, the GOP's leadership and punditocracy have collectively decided that no truth, no facts, no reason, no logic, and no math shall stand between them and what they want.
edited 10th Nov '12 9:31:14 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
It helps that their base seems to truly and actually believe that they are some sort oif moral elite and doesnt seem capable of fathoming why blacks or gays find half the shit they say highly offensive.
Even on my facebook I see perfectly nice people posting shit about how "you dont need welfare if you own a tv" or "real women get off food stamps and go work for a living"
and I really think they dont understand at all how much that REALLY pisses off Black Voters.
edited 10th Nov '12 9:36:19 AM by Midgetsnowman
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss/
Wow. Its like they really didn't even see the race as close; let alone as being in Obama's favor.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.![]()
My experience since the election (or even leading up to it) is that a large quantity of republicans and their voters lived in (and still do live in) a bubble where america truly was on its way back to the glory days that only existed for white suburban christians in the 1950's, where racial riots never happened and america was like something out of leave it to beaver instead of the snipey, morally bankrupt under the surface hellhole 50's suburbs actually were.
The realization the "lazy, immoral" latinos, blacks, and other non-whites actually have a political voice and will seems to have caught them totally offguard and made them look for some way to excuse it on america failing them morally. '
Conservativism didnt fail, it was too good for this sinful country.
..Then they wonder why Blacks and Latinos and Asians hate them.
edited 10th Nov '12 9:45:04 AM by Midgetsnowman
x3 That's what happens when you spend time listening to nothing but your own hype.
edited 10th Nov '12 9:44:35 AM by rmctagg09
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.I stand by my theory of them yelling This Cannot Be!!
GO Ps can still whine about the popular vote being close and retaining control of the house = no mandate.
edited 10th Nov '12 11:00:17 AM by nightwyrm_zero
"We still have the political power to block you, ergo, you do not have the mandate to not be blocked."
The Republican party will continue to be douchetards for as long as they have the power to do so. Period. Well that's not entirely accurate.
There's basically two camps. The "safe" camp, and the "unsafe" camp.
52% of the vote does not constitute a mandate under any circumstances. It means barely half the population prefers you to the alternative. Failure to realize this will only lead to the 40% who oppose you being pushed further and further into desperation.
Personally I wish the idea of a "mandate" would die in a fire. It stinks of nationalistic fascism, and in practice it is used to mean "we don't have to listen to what the people want anymore because half of you briefly approved of us last year".
<><"You can say we don't have a mandate all you want, but your candidate got less votes this time than your candidate did four years ago, we've picked up seats in the House, and we've expanded a Senate majority. Speaker Boehner, it is time for you to acknowledge that most Americans want taxes to increase for the rich."
Obama needs to worry less on what he has a mandate to do and more on what he has a duty to do.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.I can agree with that, actually. The idea that both parties will come together and put their differences aside because of some percentage points is an absolutely ludicrous premise to begin with.
The reality is that Obama is going to have to be firm with the Republicans and be politically savvy if he wants to get anything done. This mandate voodoo just doesn't cut it.
edited 10th Nov '12 11:38:14 AM by HilarityEnsues
Hah! Needing a mandate to govern! You Americans are adorable!
(In seriousness, I stand by the point that the US system isn't very good at correlating a mandate with the ability to govern. Hell, most Representative Democracies aren't. Last time England had a real mandate to govern, I'm pretty sure Boudicea was laying out her campaign stall.)
edited 10th Nov '12 12:46:34 PM by Minister
It's your God, they're your rules, you go to hell." - Mark Twain

Caucuses are, indeed, run by the parties with only regulatory oversight from the government, I understand. They don't make use of the voting apparatus, so no need for government assistance.