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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I think a limit on how many times it can be used per year would be a good idea.
I am inherently leery of any attempt by the party in power to limit the ability of the minority to stand against them. That said, it's hard to argue that the filibuster (or the threat thereof) has not been abused terribly by Republicans in the Senate.
Krugman psychoanalyzes the GOP
, with a side of "I'm not gloating except I am" thrown in. As he says, we have to be cautious that this doesn't come back to bite us.
Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert slams Netanyahu's 'US election interference'
edited 7th Nov '12 5:27:27 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Julian Castro
(the guy who delivered the keynote speech at the DNC) should be the democratic candidate in 2016. Partly because he seems awesome, partly because Biden would be 74 if elected President, and I'd rather not have him die in office (and in general) due to a combination of stress and old age.
Biden Sees ‘Clear Sort Of Mandate’ on Taxes
Would the racist demographic of the GOP's supporters revolt if Martinez or Rubio was nominated?
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.@Kostya; I find it unlikely that the Libs and Greens would join together. What with the Greens basically having a socialist platform and the Libs, again, running with the Republicans. And having basically a paranoid view of the government and overly angelic view of the free market. The Greens support business regulation, and moreover, support funding clean energy research which Libs think the free market can encourage all on its own.
The only thing they seem to agree on is that pot should be legal.
@Kostya
"Part of me wonders what sort of bullshit the right would pull if a woman is running."
Hypocrisy, wouldn't it be? Maverick Mc Cain chose Palin to energize the base, remember?
Yeah, that.
edited 7th Nov '12 5:43:55 PM by Trivialis
Usually, from what I've seen, racist/sexist people tend to see people they agree with that happen to be part of the minority they are prejudiced against as "A credit to their race/gender," or "one of the good ones."
They're more against the nebulous idea of that race as a whole, and specific members of that race that they see to embody the stereotypes. Racism can be subtle.
I'm pretty sure 2016 will be another long primary search on both sides again,since I doubt Biden would try for being President after being in the Senate for so long,I'm betting he'll retire.
I'm going with people like Tim Kaine or Martin O'Malley
And on the GOP side,probably Rick Perry or Santorum again.
edited 7th Nov '12 5:47:11 PM by terlwyth
I think this comment right here from Michelle Malkin summarizes how out of touch Fox News reality is with regular reality.
"My counsel to you tonight: Please, do not be bitter," Malkin wrote to fellow conservatives. "Do not fall prey to the Beltway blame game. Do not get mired in small things. Do not become vengeful creatures like our political opponents who voted out of spite instead of love of country."
They seriously do believe that liberals truly are evil monsters.
edited 7th Nov '12 5:49:45 PM by Midgetsnowman
I'd love to see Elizabeth Warren make a try for it but there will be concerns that she's too inexperienced and/or hasn't paid her dues. Obama somehow managed a pass on that, but I have a feeling that the GOP won't let her get away with the same deal. And yes, the hypocrisy of them accusing Warren of being a rube when they ran Palin in 2008 will be utterly lost on them.
edited 7th Nov '12 5:50:44 PM by Fighteer
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