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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Somehow I doubt Bachmann/Palin will be a thing. Palin's been pretty irrelevant except when she gets herself on TV, and Bachmann.... well I doubt we'll hear more of her later on.
Anyway, I wouldn't count Libertarians as separate from the Republicans; most Libertarians run with the Republicans as it currently stands. And they can't reach much more success considering their contradictory ideas of "free market" versus their values of personal liberties. (I'm thinking of private prisons here, which to reform means taking back full state control since it's private prisons that want to be full as oppose to state prisons.)
Greens are actually far more distinguishable from the Democrats than the Libs are from the Republicans. And given that people are becoming more concerned with things like green energy, more likely to be listened. They have much the same stance as Libs on legalizing drugs anyhow.
deathpigeon: Exactly, it's the perfect plan! They either cancel out their stupidity (in math two negatives make a positive) or they cause the GOP to self destruct completely.
Could the Libs and Greens possibly mix together to form a viable second party (with a few ex Rs and Ds of course)?
edited 7th Nov '12 4:41:41 PM by Kostya
Oh and @keeping this thread: this is less of a single topic and more of a megathread comparable to those in Yack Fest, only about US politics. I think the consensus is that people want to keep it that way. But since the elections have calmed down, it could use more of a lull in activity. I don't think it's appealing when every miniature news floods the thread.
Gary Johnson had many more votes this election, though, getting about .95% of the popular vote, as opposed to .33% of the popular vote that Jill Stein got.
@Kostaya: More likely is that both the Libs and Greens will basically invade Congress, and work together to reform the system so that they could survive.
edited 7th Nov '12 4:44:03 PM by deathpigeon
If Obama doesn't screw up his second term, Biden will probably be the 2016 Democratic nomination
I wouldn't be suprised if Santorum or Ron Paul decided to run again (I'd like to see Jon Huntsman run again)
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/ http://sagan4.com/forum/index.phpBoehner indicated his willingness
to work with Obama on the fiscal cliff. No details but at least it's a step in the right direction.
edited 7th Nov '12 4:52:28 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The only way in my view for the Republicans to win in 2016 is if Obama really screws up his second term.
A Good Republican Ticket: Huntsman/Rubio
A Believable Republican Ticket: Santorum/Bachmann
http://s1.zetaboards.com/Conceptual_Evolution/ http://sagan4.com/forum/index.phpedited 7th Nov '12 4:55:57 PM by PotatoesRock
The most obvious avenue for the GOP is to nominate Rubio in 2016 and push immigration reform to grap the Hispanic vote. Unfortunately for them...
edited 7th Nov '12 4:55:37 PM by Fish1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/harry-reid-filibuster-reform_n_2088767.html?ref=topbar
Harry Reid is apparently going to make reforming the Senate's rules one of his immediate concerns, by gutting the Motion to Proceed and requiring more use of the actual Filibuster.
edited 7th Nov '12 5:02:21 PM by PotatoesRock

If Palin/Bachman 2016 happens, then the Republican Party actually is doomed to irrelevance.