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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
And here's The 20 biggest sore losers of election night
I think it was a joke.
edited 7th Nov '12 4:44:56 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
California Democrats headed for state legislature supermajority
edited 7th Nov '12 4:47:16 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Kremlin Cheers Obama’s Re-Election
I don't know how to react.
Even Evil Has Standards? Or rather doesn't want to deal with the guy who apparently still thinks they are the sowjet union?
"You can reply to this Message!"So Obama won.
Have fun being destroyed by the anti-christ Murica!
Seriously tho, did Romney have any chance?
Seriously tho, did Romney have any chance?
8.9% according to 538. Though he did reach as high as 30-40% after the Denver debate.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayLooks like the Dems won both the presidency and the Senate, even likely gaining seats. However, the Repubs in the House have, at least decently well, baked in their gains thanks to gerrymandering.
There were no notable dummymanders, though the Dems came close to a dummymander in Illinois.
No, Arkansas is not a dummymander. It is a failmander.
(FYI, Dems controlled the redistricting trifecta in Arkansas...and proceeded to draw a 0-4 map.)
Well Obama did it :)
The houses are changing colors as well, which is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEgThe main reason for the electoral college at this point in time is to prevent a tyranny of the majority. If the president was elected by straight popular vote, then candidates would only ever bother to campaign in high population density areas (ie, cities). Flyover country would be completely ignored. Hell, two of the major states people were keeping an eye on this election were Wisconsin and Virginia. No disrespect to those states, but they're relatively small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, except for the electoral college.
And that's exactly why we have it. It's meant to be a balance between a straight popular vote and a straight state-by-state vote — which it does quite well. The number of electoral college votes that each state gets is the same as the number of total congressmen they have — two in the Senate, plus a number in the House of Representatives determined by population. That way, small states have a disproportional influence compared to their population, but population isn't completely ignored.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.The original intent of the electoral college was to restrain the slave states, which were allowed to treat their slaves as four-fifths of a person for electoral reasons, IIRC.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.

Didn't Ted Nugent say "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year" a while back?
Also Trump was calling for a revolution a couple hours ago, before he realized that Obama had won the popular vote.
edited 7th Nov '12 4:46:50 AM by DeviantBraeburn
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