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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#37176: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:34:51 PM

Plus, it's far more reasonable to have global spectrum than have to change to a new spectrum whenever you change regions, and be completely unable to compare politicians from different places.

But different regions face different local issues, and have different cultural traditions.

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#37177: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:35:00 PM

[up][up]Just out of general curiosity, are they online?

edited 6th Nov '12 12:36:01 PM by Completion

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#37178: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:35:36 PM

Not all of them are; some regions in Africa have very, very little internet penetration.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#37179: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:37:07 PM

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83413.html

So apparently Haley Barbour wants next time to have conservatives run all the republican primaries and not the "liberal media elite"

because the heritage Foundation will definitely run them better.

edited 6th Nov '12 12:40:42 PM by Midgetsnowman

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#37180: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:38:15 PM

Oh, I wasn't referring to your post.

But now I am: you're exactly right. Expecting a left-right spectrum to hold cross-culturally, even in cultures with little to minor differences such as U.S <-> U.K, screams of his own cultural bias. A far left-wing candidate in, say, Iran, may have left-wing economic beliefs, but his social beliefs in the U.S. will make even the most conservative member of the Christian think it's too far. That's including some cross-cultural swapping of religion to remove bias.

edited 6th Nov '12 12:39:33 PM by Completion

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#37181: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:40:18 PM

@ [down][down]I've read a number of minority opinions rather hostile to the risk of a Romney victory. Do you have a response to that complaint, and are you frightened by the possibility of Romney appointees to the Supreme Court permanently scuttling anti-discrimination laws aimed to protect LGBTQ Americans or people like you?

edited 6th Nov '12 12:48:35 PM by RadicalTaoist

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#37182: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:42:55 PM

edited 6th Nov '12 12:43:04 PM by Completion

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#37183: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:43:18 PM

@Glenn: Sure, but they can still look at the issues in similar ways. For example, sure there might be no internet in Africa, but they can still deal with issues in similar ways. An economic liberal would support wealth redistribution regardless of where he/she lives.

@Compy: Not sure how that's important, but kind of. I met them all online. I primarily interact with them all online. However, I have met some, and have plans for meeting the others, some sooner than later, especially since one would require me to go to Belarus or have him come to the US from Belarus.

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#37184: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:45:04 PM

Anyway, polyamory is not an immutable minority as all people are capable of it, unlike homosexuality or heterosexuality in which the person is utterly disgusted by the same/opposite sex in a sexual context. It's societal expectations and cultural taboos that prevent it, not the person's body. Polyamory is the state of a relationship, not a state of the person.

edited 6th Nov '12 12:47:25 PM by Completion

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#37186: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:47:24 PM

But you could have two candidates, one of whom supports more wealth distribution and one of whom supports less, and their ideal position could be the same if the first one's country has less to begin with and the second one's country has more. But their political rhetoric would be different.

GameGuruGG Vampire Hunter from Castlevania (Before Recorded History)
Vampire Hunter
#37187: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:50:18 PM

I voted all Democrat... I did however have a debate with myself on voting in a Green Party Senator, but given how the Republicans had been, the GOP needs to be booted out more than a Green needs to be in.

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#37188: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:50:41 PM

@Taoist: I wouldn't be very happy with a Romney presidency, but it really wouldn't make that much of a difference. First, Obama and Romney's positions are rather similar. Second, he doesn't have that much power. He can only legislate through Congress. Third, Supreme Court judges have to be approved by the Senate.

@Compy: ...I don't believe that's true. I mean, I can't work monogamously. It just doesn't work, for me.

edited 6th Nov '12 12:52:44 PM by deathpigeon

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#37189: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:57:30 PM

Well, as long as your relationship structures are consensual, I've learned to stop worrying about it.

RTaco Since: Jul, 2009
#37190: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:00:44 PM

DP, you seem to be sticking pretty hard to the Perfect Solution Fallacy. Something can only be called "good" or "bad" in relation to something else, and in this case voting for Obama is the least harmful option there is to take. Not voting or voting third party just increases the likeliness of a Romney win, so you're effectively choosing the eviler or two evils.

edited 6th Nov '12 1:01:41 PM by RTaco

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#37191: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:01:52 PM

[up][up] Unfortunately, not everyone is like that. Especially where polyamory is concerned. I mean, if I had a dollar for everytime someone, in an argument over gay marriage, spent time distancing themselves from it, or referred to polygamy disparagingly, I would... Probably, like, have a hundred bucks, or something like that.

[up] I'm not looking for a perfect candidate. Jill Stein isn't one. I disagree with her majorly on the issues of nuclear power. However, she won't continue to move the American population's perception of the center further right. She won't keep a foreign policy that will continue making us enemies overseas, and she won't slash social programs for the sake of austerity.

edited 6th Nov '12 1:04:04 PM by deathpigeon

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#37192: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:06:26 PM

So I went to vote at 10 AM, and it took me an hour and a half to actually make it to the voting booths. Voted solid blue.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#37193: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:09:12 PM

Voted a straight Dem ticket since the only Green on the ballot was Stein, and like fuck am I splitting the vote to allow Romney the presidency and add more fucking Scalias to the Supreme Court.

On a more personal note, I am extremely pissed that there is not on-site aid to allow the disabled/elderly a more expedient process to vote, especially when no absentee ballot was sent for one of my family members. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#37194: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:13:33 PM

I wonder how much actual good could have been done with all the money spent on superPACs if it had been used for charity or some shit.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#37195: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:15:18 PM

We might of gotten Newt's moon colony, potentially. Or at least the start of research into it.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#37196: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:16:21 PM

I'm hearing tales of long lines in my area of PA. I'm happier than ever that I went in early. I also missed all the happy fun voter intimidation.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
Long Live the King
#37197: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:16:41 PM

[up][up][up]... Debatable. I highly doubt that all the charities Republicans would donate to(in lieu of SuperPACs) are ones you think that would "do good"...

edited 6th Nov '12 1:16:55 PM by Swish

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#37198: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:16:44 PM

Voted at about 8 AM, had pretty much no line (one of the few advantages of living out in the ass end of nowhere), went straight Democratic ticket except for PA State Rep, because nobody was running against Petri.

edited 6th Nov '12 1:21:52 PM by Reflextion

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#37199: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:19:51 PM

@Swish: This is hypothetical spending, so I can assume it all went to whoever I want. Or maybe just some things that we can all agree are good, like feeding the homeless or the Red Cross or something.

edited 6th Nov '12 1:20:18 PM by Balmung

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#37200: Nov 6th 2012 at 1:27:53 PM

chrysler's actions made me smile.


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