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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83413.html
So apparently Haley Barbour wants next time to have conservatives run all the republican primaries and not the "liberal media elite"
because the heritage Foundation will definitely run them better.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:40:42 PM by Midgetsnowman
Oh, I wasn't referring to your post.
But now I am: you're exactly right. Expecting a left-right spectrum to hold cross-culturally, even in cultures with little to minor differences such as U.S <-> U.K, screams of his own cultural bias. A far left-wing candidate in, say, Iran, may have left-wing economic beliefs, but his social beliefs in the U.S. will make even the most conservative member of the Christian think it's too far. That's including some cross-cultural swapping of religion to remove bias.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:39:33 PM by Completion
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I've read a number of minority opinions rather hostile to the risk of a Romney victory
. Do you have a response to that complaint, and are you frightened by the possibility of Romney appointees to the Supreme Court permanently scuttling anti-discrimination laws aimed to protect LGBTQ Americans or people like you?
edited 6th Nov '12 12:48:35 PM by RadicalTaoist
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.@Glenn: Sure, but they can still look at the issues in similar ways. For example, sure there might be no internet in Africa, but they can still deal with issues in similar ways. An economic liberal would support wealth redistribution regardless of where he/she lives.
@Compy: Not sure how that's important, but kind of. I met them all online. I primarily interact with them all online. However, I have met some, and have plans for meeting the others, some sooner than later, especially since one would require me to go to Belarus or have him come to the US from Belarus.
Anyway, polyamory is not an immutable minority as all people are capable of it, unlike homosexuality or heterosexuality in which the person is utterly disgusted by the same/opposite sex in a sexual context. It's societal expectations and cultural taboos that prevent it, not the person's body. Polyamory is the state of a relationship, not a state of the person.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:47:25 PM by Completion
Report possible voting rights violations to the Department of Justice
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The four marriage equality items to vote on
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Romney's lies bite him in the ass; Chrysler gives employees day off to vote
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Mitt even votes like an asshole; NPR reports voters were asked to leave station when he came to vote
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I voted all Democrat... I did however have a debate with myself on voting in a Green Party Senator, but given how the Republicans had been, the GOP needs to be booted out more than a Green needs to be in.
Wizard Needs Food Badly@Taoist: I wouldn't be very happy with a Romney presidency, but it really wouldn't make that much of a difference. First, Obama and Romney's positions are rather similar. Second, he doesn't have that much power. He can only legislate through Congress. Third, Supreme Court judges have to be approved by the Senate.
@Compy: ...I don't believe that's true. I mean, I can't work monogamously. It just doesn't work, for me.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:52:44 PM by deathpigeon
DP, you seem to be sticking pretty hard to the Perfect Solution Fallacy. Something can only be called "good" or "bad" in relation to something else, and in this case voting for Obama is the least harmful option there is to take. Not voting or voting third party just increases the likeliness of a Romney win, so you're effectively choosing the eviler or two evils.
edited 6th Nov '12 1:01:41 PM by RTaco
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Unfortunately, not everyone is like that. Especially where polyamory is concerned. I mean, if I had a dollar for everytime someone, in an argument over gay marriage, spent time distancing themselves from it, or referred to polygamy disparagingly, I would... Probably, like, have a hundred bucks, or something like that.
I'm not looking for a perfect candidate. Jill Stein isn't one. I disagree with her majorly on the issues of nuclear power. However, she won't continue to move the American population's perception of the center further right. She won't keep a foreign policy that will continue making us enemies overseas, and she won't slash social programs for the sake of austerity.
edited 6th Nov '12 1:04:04 PM by deathpigeon
So I went to vote at 10 AM, and it took me an hour and a half to actually make it to the voting booths. Voted solid blue.
Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.Voted a straight Dem ticket since the only Green on the ballot was Stein, and like fuck am I splitting the vote to allow Romney the presidency and add more fucking Scalias to the Supreme Court.
On a more personal note, I am extremely pissed that there is not on-site aid to allow the disabled/elderly a more expedient process to vote, especially when no absentee ballot was sent for one of my family members. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I'm hearing tales of long lines in my area of PA. I'm happier than ever that I went in early. I also missed all the happy fun voter intimidation.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Voted at about 8 AM, had pretty much no line (one of the few advantages of living out in the ass end of nowhere), went straight Democratic ticket except for PA State Rep, because nobody was running against Petri.
edited 6th Nov '12 1:21:52 PM by Reflextion
Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.

But different regions face different local issues, and have different cultural traditions.