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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Seeing that clip, I'm thinking Herman Cain should be listed as an example of The Social Darwinist.
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Isn't the exact cause of climate change under debate?
Regardless, if Romney doesn't impose his beliefs on anyone I don't see the harm.
A man should not face discrimination for his creed.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:16:55 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016![]()
Not really. It's pretty well known it's man made and it's cars and cows and, if it gets horrible enough, plumes of methane out of the atlantic.
Also,
virtually all the climate change denialism comes from the US.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:20:22 AM by Enkufka
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Only if were counting only the Western World
edited 6th Nov '12 12:24:15 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016@Best Of: Not really. That means that there's 80% of the population that confesses to a particular religion. And people usually want a representative who shares their values. And religion really is a value over here.
If atheism is a deal-breaker for a significant portion of our voting base, on both sides of the liberal-conservative fence (worse for conservatives, but there's plenty of politically-liberal people who are nonetheless quite religious individuals), you're going to have a massively uphill battle getting elected.
We have a large chunk who are most assuredly anti-science and anti-intellectual, though not usually anti-tech. This is the country where one of our political parties got a lot of street cred by calling themselves "Know-Nothings."
edited 6th Nov '12 12:28:48 AM by Ramidel
You can look up the exact figures if you like, but almost all (easily over 95% IIRC of) climate scientist accept that climate change is happening, and an overwhelming majority of them believe it's caused in part by the actions of mankind.
Well if he's gullible enough to be convinced by his religion, it's entirely possible that he'd spend your tax money on homeopathy or something. Or made policy decisions based on horoscopes.
Food for thought, if you ask me, though obviously I know that not all religious people are that stupid. I won't assume that anyone is an idiot until they've said something really stupid, and I don't think I've heard Romney actually assert very many of his church's doctrines, though he did say he believes that stuff about Jesus reigning from Jerusalem and Missouri. If he does believe the origin story of Native Americans, though, I won't put it past him to belive in alien abductions or other such tripe, too.
The secular voting bloc, which is currently emerging (or trying to emerge) in America as a political lobby corresponding in influence to its size (which puts it well past the Jewish lobby to pick just one comparison) is firmly behind Obama in this election.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:30:08 AM by BestOf
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.This is kinda why I prefer Biden. He noted that he cottons to the catholic stance on abortion, but thinks that other people's views take precedence.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryObama is very religious, too, but fortunately he doesn't seem to put his religion in his politics anywhere near as much as he does in his speeches.
BTW, I don't think Romney is an idiot just because of his religious beliefs. What he's said about the economy is at least equally condemning.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.![]()
Have you seen this picture of him back when he worked at Bain Capital?
◊ (He's the guy in the center).
He looks like Gordon Gecko, and there are wads of money falling out of his shirt.
Israel?
edited 6th Nov '12 12:50:33 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016![]()
The Aliens?
Have anyone checked the latest from XKCD?
EDIT: Oh it's Poll Watching, the one I'm talking about is Congress
. A big infographic on its composition.
edited 6th Nov '12 12:58:15 AM by entropy13
Republicans may lose Texas House supermajority
Tiny northeast town casts first White House votes
edited 6th Nov '12 1:54:23 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016So this is it!
I'm SO EXCITED!
Arizona GOP seeks to retain control of Legislature
edited 6th Nov '12 3:19:58 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016All right. Taking bets now. The real question, the only question:

Let's be fair. I won't go at anyone's beliefs regarding Jesus (definitely not in this thread) but that thing about Native Americans being descended from a lost tribe of Israel - you can't call that a "spiritual belief." That's a fact claim that can be checked, and indeed it has been, by comparing the DNA of Jews (who can trace their ancestry to at least somewhere in the Middle East) and Native Americans. It's simply false. Now, I'm not sure if Romney believes that bit of his religious group's doctrine but if he does, that alone should be enough for most people to not vote for him. Fact claims are checked by science and you don't get to dispute them by tradition or religion.
"Spiritual" and other such issues that aren't solved by science (at least yet,) well, I'll let people treat those as matters of opinion. Science, however, is not a matter of opinion. (See also: evolution and climate change.)
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.