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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@ Enkufka:
Which, if I remember right, you think is only just as bad as drone strikes. It's much worse.
Worst Case Scenario: World War III.
Keep Rolling OnWe're murdering people as they mourn over their relatives' graves, and your only concern is what's going on in the place where you live at?
Oh, and sorry to burst your bubble, but Obama wants to cut Medicare and Medicade as well. He calls it the Grand Bargain. He said he'd "wash Bayhner's car" or "walk McConnell's dog" if it meant getting the Grand Bargain.
edited 5th Nov '12 1:53:28 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.And if the Republicans had their way, there WOULD be no Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security period. I'm willing to sustain temporary brunting on it to appease their ravenous Randian asses.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:00:23 PM by PotatoesRock
^ Again, Obama will cut Medicare, cut Medicade and cut taxes.
All right. Hypothetically speaking, if these drones end up massacring members of your family, would you care then. Remember, I said hypothetically speaking. That means "pretend."
edited 5th Nov '12 2:01:15 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.Obama is significantly better on the economy and on civil rights.
Those are the only two issues that really matter here. If you are a woman, non-white or poor, you are utterly, remorselessly and brutally fucked if Obama loses.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:00:59 PM by CaissasDeathAngel
My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.![]()
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Oh for FUCKS SAKE.
AGAIN, it's a cut BECAUSE THEY'RE SAVING MONEY. NO reduction in benefits is occurring, it is because they are reducing payments to doctors and hospitals. They agreed to this.
Do you keep paying $700 a month for utilities if you installed a better light system which reduces your cost by $200 per month?
I'm sick of the zombie misrepresentation. Just saying that he's going to cut medicare without understanding why is disingenuous.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:04:03 PM by Enkufka
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryCut, but not entirely erase it, or leave it to the winds of Wall Street which the Tea Party and Romney would gleefully do with joy. And as noted, most of the cuts Obama wants to Medicare and Medicaid are cut out gross waste of the system, not destroy it.
I'm going to go with the lesser evil out of political reality. If you're so stuck on idealisms, go vote for a 3rd Party Candidate.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:05:38 PM by PotatoesRock
I'm pissed at the drones because there are reports
that we'll have drones hovering over our skies, performing surveillance on us within the next few years
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As for the Grand Bargain - they'll 'cut' Medicare, in particular, by raising the retirement age. There goes several thousand that you would've earned had they not raised the retirement age. In fact, Obama, Romney AND Ryan all advocate for slashing Medicare
.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:09:55 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.Medicaid is poor person healthcare. Medicare is Old person healthcare.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry![]()
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That's really paranoid.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:13:36 PM by Enkufka
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryDo you actually believe that drones would be used on American soil for attacks short out of an outright insurrection or military revolt? The feds have been on edge over large scale uses of force in public since Waco went down.
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Also this. Hell anyone of us could probably pull it off with the right equipment. We'd be breaking laws but it doesn't require high end military gear.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:14:22 PM by Rationalinsanity
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Lower tax rates for rich people — paid for by benefit cuts for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid
. That's the Grand Bargain in a nutshell.
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There will never be a revolution. However, that doesn't mean drones won't gun down civilians anyway. All who garner power will use it, without exception.
edited 5th Nov '12 2:17:48 PM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.

In any case, I find the issue of climate change to be more salient to me, and I echo NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg's endorsement of Obama
on this issue:
Romney, in contrast, has catered to climate change deniers.
edited 5th Nov '12 1:50:38 PM by GlennMagusHarvey