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#36526: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:29:47 PM

Change... back to what "worked" in the past. And by worked, we mean for rich people.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36527: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:33:00 PM

The youth wing of the ruling United Russia party's held a protest on Thursday calling for a ban on Mormon missionaries in Russia, charging that they were potential American spies.

Anyone else fear this is connected to Mitt's hawkish stance on Russia?

edited 3rd Nov '12 2:34:33 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36528: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:35:56 PM

[up][up]Somehow I doubt that's what most people think of when they think of change.

It still annoys me that people can't seem to recognize that when things weren't regulated we entered the Great Depression and then about a decade and a half after we deregulated we entered the Great Recession. Gee, I wonder if there's a connection!

[up]That is a bizarre reason. The Mormons never did anything to anybody from what I know of history.

It's not like Mitt's the Mormon equivalent of the Pope or something. He doesn't have a lot of control over them.

edited 3rd Nov '12 2:36:31 PM by Kostya

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36529: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:38:48 PM

[up]

Xenophobia doesn't need cromulent reasons.

The Mormons never did anything to anybody from what I know of history.

Well...

And they had some squabbles with some Native America Tribes.

edited 3rd Nov '12 2:44:38 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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#36530: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:40:49 PM

Mitt Romney is a Mormon Bishop, though for them it's not as high a position as it would be in most branches of Christianity. My understanding is that he's higher in the Mormon hierarchy than a priest in mainstream Christianity. Look him up in Wikipedia and you'll find that he's held some pretty high positions locally, though the Mormon hierarchy seems to be really spread out.

edited 3rd Nov '12 2:41:19 PM by BestOf

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#36531: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:41:24 PM

It's not like Mitt's the Mormon equivalent of the Pope or something. He doesn't have a lot of control over them.
Yes he does. Romney is or was ranked as a Mormon bishop, which effectively meant people had to worship the ground the man walked on. Why do you think he has such issues with being challenged?

Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36532: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:47:42 PM

[up]Practically all Mormon men are priests of some form; Bishop is merely the highest rank in the Aaronic priesthood. Romney's not actually in charge of anything at this time, although I think he used to run a Stake in Massachusetts.

Honestly, I'm surprised that nobody has made up a storm about having an actual priest in the Oval Office.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36533: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:48:56 PM

Didn't Romney step down in 1994?

I don't think he has that much power in the LDS church (especially outside the USA).

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36534: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:49:12 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Sorry but I can't think in Xenophobe.tongue

I did not know about those things.

[up][up][up][up]Really? I didn't know that.

[up][up]Why would they? The right loves religious leaders. They want the entire country to be run by them.

edited 3rd Nov '12 2:49:55 PM by Kostya

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#36535: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:52:48 PM

If I'm remembering right a mormon bishop is sort of like a regional head or is in charge of the missionaries. I'm recalling this from a half-remembered post on reddit, granted, but I'm pretty sure they don't have any real power outside of their area.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36536: Nov 3rd 2012 at 2:55:54 PM

I'm surprised that nobody has made up a storm about having an actual priest in the Oval Office.

We've had someone who had held a religious office (Disciples of Christ's minister) in the White House before.

Actually make that two people (Presbyterian deacon)

edited 3rd Nov '12 3:10:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36537: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:03:20 PM

@Kostya: Excepting the ones who hate Mormons. Oh, and the Left. Don't forget about them.

@Braeburn: We've also had a few agnostics in the White House, up to and including one Abraham Lincoln.

In other news, the way the Mormon priesthood works is that at 12, you can become a Deacon in the Aaronic priesthood, a Teacher at 14, and a Priest at 16. At 18 you can become an Elder in the Melchizedek priesthood, and once you get married you can become a High Priest, after which you can become a Bishop in the Aaronic priesthood. To the best of my knowledge, Romney has never held the higher ranks of Seventy or Apostle, and has certainly never been President of the Church, which is the Mormon Pope.

In other news, I recommend we stop with this Mormon priesthood derail now.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36538: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:12:33 PM

[up]

We've also had a few agnostics in the White House, up to and including one Abraham Lincoln.

That's still hotly debated and not truly confirmed.

We've had Theists and we've had Deists and that's all that is known for sure.

Although Aaron Burr was an Atheist, so theirs that.

edited 3rd Nov '12 3:14:00 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36539: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:16:37 PM

Wait are you telling me we've had a godless man in the white house? That is hilarious given how people view Atheists.

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#36540: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:17:27 PM

...and Romney's Family have been in the upper Echelons of the Mormon Church for decades — one of the Romney's ancestors*

were close to Brigham Young.

Keep Rolling On
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36541: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:18:58 PM

I thought Romney wasn't born a Mormon or was that his wife?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36542: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:19:48 PM

[up][up]

And Mitt's father was also a moderate Republican who decried far-right extremists, so clearly he didn't pick up everything from his family.

[up]

I think it was his wife.

edited 3rd Nov '12 3:29:33 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36543: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:20:54 PM

Mitt's father is also the one that started the tradition of candidates releasing tax returns. Oh the irony.[lol]

Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36544: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:21:41 PM

[up][up]It was his wife.

[up]Indeed.

There was an article about the original Mormon Romneys somewhere; I think it was a few months ago. If memory serves, they converted in about the 1840s in England. Yeah, Romney has a rich Mormon heritage.

edited 3rd Nov '12 3:25:43 PM by Arkasas

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36545: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:38:32 PM

California state legislature Democrats eye veto-proof supermajority

edited 3rd Nov '12 3:39:40 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Linhasxoc Since: Jun, 2009
#36546: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:38:54 PM

So, I have a question. I want to follow the election live, but I don't have TV at my place (I live in a place with terrible broadcast coverage, and cable is expensive when you're a college student and not sharing with your roommates). Absent of going to someone else's place and/or some kind of election party, does anyone know of any free live coverage of the election?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36547: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:42:02 PM

[up]

Have you ever hear of this miraculous doohickey called the 'World Wide Web'?

Or failing that Newspapers or Radios?

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Arkasas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36548: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:43:51 PM

[up][up]Everyone has some form of online thing, and I think that in 2012 they would have some form of internet feed.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#36549: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:53:01 PM

Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey Predicts State Will Go Red

I think he's delusionally idealistic.

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#36550: Nov 3rd 2012 at 3:57:15 PM

Someone stop me...after his tweet to Christie I started reading Murdochs twitter account and can't stop sad

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