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#36251: Nov 1st 2012 at 6:12:33 AM

Although, if I understand his methodology, that only measures the degree with which the parties tend to vote together, so it doesn't necessarily measure the same things you mean by centrism and extremism. It does mean that democrats are more likely to vote with republicans than republicans are to vote with democrats.

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#36252: Nov 1st 2012 at 6:34:13 AM

I just watched Stewart's bit on Christie. That man comes across as a BAMF for telling Fox News to shove it.

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#36253: Nov 1st 2012 at 7:00:42 AM

Now, before you judge, running a superpower nation IS a lot like a pep rally.

Romney's experience may be what we need.

I'm a skeptical squirrel
Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36254: Nov 1st 2012 at 7:14:59 AM

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Yeah. Exactly. The look on Christie's face is one of someone who has been up all night, is exhausted, and has absolutely zero patience for being used as a political plug at the moment. Even if it was partially to bolster his campaign, the way he says it pretty much says "Hi. I'm exhausted. I'm busy saving my state from a disaster area. Kindly fuck off and die you vultures"

edited 1st Nov '12 7:17:46 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36255: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:12:53 AM

I will admit, i got up and appalled him for that statement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
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#36257: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:31:30 AM

6 Bizarre Factors That Predict Every Presidential Election from Cracked.

Somewhat related. According to the factors listed in the article, Obama should win. Again, it is a guesstimation from an article of a humor site.

I think they might be right.

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#36258: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:43:27 AM

Now, before you judge, running a superpower nation IS a lot like a pep rally.
Aaaaaaand Mr. Otto Touch makes the hurricane gaffe his campaign handlers were fearing he'd make.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#36259: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:45:57 AM

Somewhat related. According to the factors listed in the article, Obama should win. Again, it is a guesstimation from an article of a humor site.
I'd try and inquire what the underlying factors that lead to these things are, because these sounds like they're subject to a bigger framework, and are just surface factors.

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#36260: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:46:47 AM

[up][up][up][up]You know they meant applauded, and yet you still "ask" if the word they're using is what they meant to use because someone on the internet is ''wrong'', and therefore it's a threat to your preconceived notions of reality and you feel as though you need to correct that.

I'm not trying to single you out, but I see the vast majority of people do this all the time, and damn, it's annoying.

To bring this on-topic, uh, I think this is why politics is so crappy. Yeah, let's go with that.

[up][up][up]So, I just have to buy a shitload of Romney masks so he can win and I can make a whole lot of money trough betting everything I have on him winning. Got it.

[up][up]I'm betting it'll be ignored, or at least be forgotten by election day.

edited 1st Nov '12 8:48:11 AM by Ekuran

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#36261: Nov 1st 2012 at 8:54:27 AM

[up] About asking what people meant: There's also the case of you know, being confused about what the other person meant.

About the masks: Buying a lot of those wouldn't make Romney win, it would skew the results if we polled that factor again.

[up][up] As far as I'm concerned, it's witchcraft for the most of them. I mean, how can a football game in one city determine the next president? I don't think most of america even know about that particular team. Weird stuff.

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#36262: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:07:10 AM

[up][up]OTOH, if no one points it out the person who made the mistake won't learn from it and is thus deprived of a free vocabulary lesson. I for one appreciate it when people point out my typos and other mistakes.

That said, there are nice ways of pointing out errors like that, and there are also not-so-nice ways to do it.

edited 1st Nov '12 9:07:17 AM by BestOf

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#36263: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:29:54 AM

OTOOH, that in all likeliness wasn't actual confusion of words (i.e., they don't usually mistake applauded with appalled) so much as it was a typo, which is pointless to call out when there is nothing to be gained by anyone, as in this particular case, which leads to my original conclusion.

And I am derailing this thread. Sorry about that.

[up][up]I was joking, dude.

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#36264: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:37:52 AM

I've got to give a lot of credit to Christie for handling this as well as he has.

This really just emphasizes everything that's wrong with Romney. Normal people of any political affiliation are concerned about the safety of people whenever disasters strike. His main concern seems to be whether or not money is being wasted in aiding the victims, and he likens all of this to cleaning up after a football game.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36265: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:42:08 AM

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Yeah..Romney does seem to be amazingly good at making himself look like he has no idea how normal people feel after a disaster. I mean. Look at Christie. He's uber-republican, but his first measure upon NJ getting blasted was to basically spend the next two nights doing his job as governor nonstop because frankly, even if he doesn't personally care, his job relies in him working his ass off right now. Same with Obama. He hasn't bothered with any sort of serious campaigning since. Romneyt on the other hand has bought goods that technically don't even help, gave them to people to donate back to him, and basically continued campaigning as though nothing was wrong. And I think the American people notice it.

When a disaster this big hits, they don't want campaigning, they want what Obama and Christie did. Ignoring party affiliations in favor of expedient response to a crisis. And I can wager the voters of the states currently heavily damaged are far more likely to notice FEMA's swift response and Obama suspending his campaign in favor of getting disaster funding and troops moved in asap far more than they'd notice campaign stunts

edited 1st Nov '12 9:44:01 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36266: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:43:15 AM

O’Donnell suggested these measures are the result of an extreme situation less than one week before the election: “It’s hard out there for a presidential candidate who is utterly irrelevant to the massive relief effort President Obama is running in the aftermath of this week’s historic storm.”
Yes, it is tough for a contender to the Presidency to look like anything other than a bystander while the actual President goes around doing the job that he was elected to perform. However, the contender can surely do better than hold obviously staged "relief" events — he could hold actual ones, for one thing.

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#36267: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:45:33 AM

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This.

When you "cancel" a campaign events, run one in the exact same spot the exact same day with the branding for the "cancelled" event and spend it donating yourself goods that the Red Cross doesn't even want and liken cleaning up New Jersey to the minor debris after a football game, it does your campaign no favors. Especially when with Romney's sheer monetary worth he could just dump a multimillion dollar check in the Red Cross' coffers and encourage his supporters to do the same.

No. Instead, he contributes a measly 5k of shit the Red Cross doesn't want.

I imagine Romney's campaign advisors are gonna need a lot of therapy for stress after the campaign ends.

edited 1st Nov '12 9:47:22 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36268: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:51:43 AM

and in hilarious and ironic news, Rush Limbaugh has apparently called Chris Christie "Fat and a fool"

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#36269: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:52:15 AM

Is this enough to impress voters though?

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Pfhahaha

edited 1st Nov '12 9:52:51 AM by Thorn14

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#36270: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:53:42 AM

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If he made a big deal of tossing a large quantity of his fortune at fixing the problem, I think it would. I mean. Mitt's obscenely rich. What could be better PR than looking like he's willing to burn money on his fellow man like a good christian?

also, yes. Limbaugh of all people using fat as an insult is...hilarious

edited 1st Nov '12 9:54:13 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36271: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:56:06 AM

I meant Obama helping out, I got ninja'd.

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#36272: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:58:00 AM

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Ah.

Still, Its almost sickening how fast conservative pundits have turned on christie for having the gall to do his damned job and worry about the state he governs and has apparently lived in his whole life.

I mean, really? The man's busy trying to save millions of people's lives and livelihood and because he dared to work with Obama instead of pretend the President is unable to help, thereby saving large quantities of his populace, he's now a fat fool who deserves to be hated?

edited 1st Nov '12 9:59:16 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36273: Nov 1st 2012 at 9:58:49 AM

I really wonder if he's debating his political stances right now.

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#36274: Nov 1st 2012 at 10:00:08 AM

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I imagine given the sheer goodwill this will give him he could easily run as an independent and win in a landslide.

also, the exact, hilarious quote.

“He’s fat and a fool. Don’t listen to Governor Christie. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” Rush Limbaugh.

edited 1st Nov '12 10:01:14 AM by Midgetsnowman

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#36275: Nov 1st 2012 at 10:01:41 AM

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It certainly would be helpful to justify the idea that private charities can do the work Romney claims the federal government is too incompetent to do.

Unfortunately for him, right now he's just proving exactly why we can't rely on the generosity of random rich people to make the world a better place - because they don't care about BEING virtuous so much as LOOKING virtuous. (Coincidentally that was a theme on the latest South Park episode, too.)

It goes neatly hand-in-hand with his would-be vice's dish-washing stunt.

edited 1st Nov '12 10:02:30 AM by Karkadinn

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

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