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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#36226: Oct 31st 2012 at 8:11:12 PM

We haven't set a date in stone. I think we can use this one for the rest of 2012, probably. Then we can have a "2013 in American politics" thread - you know, assuming that there still is a world out there after December.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36227: Oct 31st 2012 at 8:14:40 PM

I have to say. Watching Daily show.

Even if he's just positioning for a 2016 run, it was damned satisfying to see that clip of the Fox and Friends crew asking Chris Christie if he was going to tour the damaged areas of New Jersey with Romney and Christie's response amounted to the slightly politer version of "I dont give two fucks about Romney right now. shut up about the goddamned election."

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#36228: Oct 31st 2012 at 8:36:23 PM

I'm starting to think that Sandy will give Obama a boost if anything... his response has been pretty good for PR. Romney is behaving like he's walking on broken glass... he knows that a gaffe now on Sandy could ruin him.

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
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#36230: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:04:18 PM

[up]I don't trust those polls, but this is (almost, ALMOST) good news... That, [up][up][up]and semi-seeing Christie disown Romney like that, but I know alterior motives out in the open when I see them from any Republican of his ilk, IMHO...

edited 31st Oct '12 9:05:01 PM by LostAnarchist

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36231: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:04:24 PM

[up][up]

Even if it isnt, I imagine everything from how he has stopped giving fucks about politics for the second and how even big name republicans like Christie are peraising how he's ignoring red tape to get aid to people fast..its probably going to make him look damned presidential.

[up]

True.

But even if the motives might be less virtuous than I want to hope, its still hilarious how the second they started looking for a chance to promote Romney in a crisis Christie just had this look of utter "really? Really? You want to plug Romney now? While half my state is underwater and I'm buried in trying to fix the state and look like a competent governor? Really? Fuck you all." on his face.

edited 31st Oct '12 9:07:00 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#36232: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:06:16 PM

[up]Spoken for truth. But Christie's somewhat extremist views have me voting against him either way. For once, however, it's good hearing about/seeing him give a fuck about HIS STATE and NOT his party...

For the record, with how I'm even coming in to talk about this noise - I want it over. NOW... No matter who wins. I'm staying educated and armed for any shit that goes down, especially in Conservative-dominated (yet somewhat sane, for now, anyway) South Carolina...

edited 31st Oct '12 9:10:17 PM by LostAnarchist

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#36233: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:08:33 PM

For once, however, it's good hearing about/seeing him give a fuck about HIS STATE and NOT his party...

The fact that you have to say this should make you hesitant to vote for him already.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#36234: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:09:00 PM

Its sad that the only time our country really comes together is in times of tragedy.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36235: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:09:58 PM

[up][up]

Agreed, but it restored my faith in humankind just a little to see even a dyed in the wool republican just telling the pundits to shut up.

edited 31st Oct '12 9:10:07 PM by Midgetsnowman

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#36236: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:10:58 PM

[up][up] Damn Straight![awesome]

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#36237: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:17:59 PM

@ Lost Anarchist

Christie probably is one of the most moderate politicians in the Republican Party.

I mean he supports the notion of medical marijuana, same-sex civil unions, and tax credits to businesses that build new wind energy and manufacturing facilities.

Plus there's this

Christie has strongly criticized critics of Muslim Americans (specifically The Tea Party), particularly those who claim that Muslims want to introduce Sharia Law into the US. He vehemently defended his appointee Sohail Mohammed, a Muslim American, to the NJ Superior Court. He went so far as to say that ignorance was behind the criticism of Sohail Mohammed and Muslim Americans.[31]

[up][up][up]

We occasionally come together when it comes to international sport events, like the Olympics.

edited 31st Oct '12 9:24:31 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
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#36238: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:33:22 PM

[up] So... Why all the reluctance to have those things be made legal in his state, is my question - All I seem to keep hearing about is him supporting some unfortunately extremist Repug ideals in lockstep with most of the Tea Party's worst, especially considering both the affordable healthcare situation and LGBT situation winding down in his state...

Also, I don't trust Wikipedia all that much, unless to help with my homework where necessary, and even that's a stretch...

edited 31st Oct '12 9:35:05 PM by LostAnarchist

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36239: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:38:16 PM

[up]

I'd say its pretty simple. He may support them. But his own party would deprive him of 99% of funding and support if he didnt vote in lockstep.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#36240: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:45:49 PM

[up][up]

But Same-sex civil unions and medical marijuana are legal in New Jersey.

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#36241: Oct 31st 2012 at 9:54:57 PM

Just to draw away from Romney for a moment — It's possible that Christie is still planning on a 2016 ticket. If Romney wins, it'll never happen. But by dismissing the libertarianism of the far right, he makes his bones with Daddy Obama and leaves the door open for a future Presidential run. Smart and sensible.

Just floating that theory.

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#36242: Oct 31st 2012 at 10:01:09 PM

[up][up][up] So he (Christie) has no choice but to act against the people, then, if that's the case... Just more reason for everyone to be disappointed in something, then.

I don't see Christie as leader material in the near future, getting pushed around like this!

edited 31st Oct '12 10:04:39 PM by LostAnarchist

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#36243: Oct 31st 2012 at 10:03:03 PM

[1]

Same old Cult of Centrismish false equivalency BS as always.

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#36244: Oct 31st 2012 at 10:06:38 PM

[up] Yeah... I wasn't feeling what I said at first, period (And thank GOD; it sounded oh so fucking wrong IMHO) - it's too late for me to be conducting in this, honestly - I just can't help but wonder some things regarding these recent turns of events having to say something about it, anyway)...

edited 31st Oct '12 10:07:09 PM by LostAnarchist

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#36245: Oct 31st 2012 at 10:24:43 PM

Just curious, are there private relief groups out there? Does Red Cross count as private?

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#36246: Oct 31st 2012 at 11:04:06 PM

@Thorn: Yes, it's a nonprofit organization.

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#36247: Oct 31st 2012 at 11:04:57 PM

About Christie, his actions right now are pretty much guaranteeing him the governor's position again in New Jersey come next year's election, unless somewhere along the way he fucks up the recovery effort or something. Even my mom, who always rants about republicans and the way Christie acts like a bully (I agree with her for the most part, but she tends to get more worked up about it than I do), admitted that it was good to see him stick it to Fox News like that.

Even if I don't like the guy for various reasons, in a situation like this I can respect him for what he's doing and how he's leading. And plus, little kids were happy when they found out he postponed Halloween until Monday, so they still have an opportunity to do trick-or-treating, so that made me smile a bit.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36248: Oct 31st 2012 at 11:06:28 PM

[up]

yeah. Whether its genuine concern or political expediency, at least he seems capable of doing so. Its disgusting how Fox news was still trying to score political points when he was obviously busy.

edited 31st Oct '12 11:06:47 PM by Midgetsnowman

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#36249: Nov 1st 2012 at 12:52:38 AM

Clinton tells Iowans presidential choice is between 'all in this together' or 'on your own

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#36250: Nov 1st 2012 at 2:39:05 AM

xkcd shows how the U.S. House Republicans are dominated by far-right-wingers, and how are there dramatically more centrist Democrats than centrist Republicans.

http://xkcd.com/1127/

edited 1st Nov '12 2:39:42 AM by GlennMagusHarvey


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