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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/30/krauthammer-obama-playing-president-for-sandy-not-benghazi/
The facts don't jive with this person's worldview.
So what does he do?
He conjures up a justification to "explain" the facts in a way consistent with his worldview.
TL;DR: When Obama acts presidential (i.e. doing his job), he is merely "acting" presidential, rather than actually presidential.
weaksauce argument is weaksauce
@Serocco: explain to me what's wrong with Stand Your Ground laws, and why it's relevant.
My general belief is that they're largely meaningless in the first place, and don't deserve much attention pro or con; they play well to those who advocate armed self-defense, but in actuality make very little difference to the legal position. Situations where the use of deadly force is legally justified don't tend to be associated with opportunities to 100% safely retreat from the danger.
A brighter future for a darker age.The main reasoning people have against Stand Your Ground laws is Florida's law, which for a month or so, allowed George Zimmerman to remain free for shooting a black teenager who was running home, who looked too black and suspicious to him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
Basically they're seen as "right to murder" laws backed by gun lobbyists.
Basically, Stand Your Ground is an expanded form of the Castle Doctrine, which is that your home is your domain and you have the right to protect it. Stand Your Ground expands that to any public place.
edited 30th Oct '12 4:52:09 PM by Enkufka
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryYes, Florida's Stand Your Ground law was signed by Jeb Bush. I see it as yet another "propaganda law" that mostly exists to show off.
On another note: When is campaigning to restart? Seems like Romney is already courting controversy with his FEMA statements.
edited 17th May '13 11:03:30 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanRomney Surrogate Reassures Ohio Voters: Roe v. Wade Safe Under Romney
No one tell Grizzly, it would just depress him.
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016@Tomu: yet Stand Your Ground had absolutely nothing to do with the Trayvon Martin shooting. Neither Zimmerman nor his defense team has raised it as a defense, and I've read a number of legal analyses saying that it's fundamentally irrelevant to it.
The train of thought that associates it strikes me as sloppy. "Stand Your Ground" laws are well-publicized recent laws that (slightly) expand the legal grounds for using lethal force in self-defense. Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin was a dubious claim of shooting in self-defense — therefore it has to be associated?
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Well said. Here's a relevant part of Wikipedia's article on the United States Senate election in Massachusetts, 1994 between Ted Kennedy and Mitt Romney that I felt like sharing.
I wish Ted were still alive today, he'd call Romeny out on his bull.
edited 30th Oct '12 5:09:25 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016I found an interesting post on Slacktivist
talking about how fundamentalist Protestant opposition to abortion is in fact a very recent phenomenon (post-1970) and was adopted for specifically political ends, those being splitting Catholics off from the Democrats and finding an issue where Democrats could be condemned as evil and opposed to Christianity in a fundamental way.
Prior to 1970 or so, Protestants pointed to Catholic obsession with abortion as another one of those crazy ideas Catholics had that came from the Pope rather than the Bible.
A brighter future for a darker age.GM calls latest Romney auto ad 'politics at its cynical worst'
edited 30th Oct '12 5:17:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016Morven: Yes, because that is what Stand Your Grand is - an excuse to justify murder through self-defense.
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.

The only way either of them will run in 2016 is if romney loses. Nobody sane runs against the imcumbent,