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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#36001: Oct 30th 2012 at 12:52:18 PM

It's code for "We don't like the fact that you trying to organize a quick and efficient response is going to make you look really damn good, and that you'll be able to use this to argue for a Second Great Society."

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#36002: Oct 30th 2012 at 12:59:55 PM

Maybe he honestly believes that dicking around like FEMA did with Katrina is the appropriate response to a hurricane. You could give him points for consistency.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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#36003: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:04:02 PM

I hate Christie for a number of reasons, but praising Obama for his response to Sandy and coordinating relief efforts for New Jersey is not one of them.

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QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#36004: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:15:19 PM

Wait what

you can respond too quickly to an hurricane?

Is this guy for real?

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#36005: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:28:00 PM

[up]Can you imagine the thinking that went on there? I can't.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#36007: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:36:02 PM

Do you know what would possibly be the worst thing for Chris Christie's political career, right now? Romney becoming president. That would mean that, in 2016, Romney would be the Republican nominee for president, and Christie would have to wait four more years before he tried to become president himself.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#36008: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:36:47 PM

It's pretty bad when you have someone saying that the president, regardless of who he is, is responding TOO FAST to a natural disaster that has at least hundreds out of their homes. Shit, these clean up and rescue missions don't organize themselves, you moron. At least Christie appears to be focusing on actually helping people this time.

Anyway, this appears to have delayed both candidate's campaigning they had planned for the week. Think this is going to have any effect? I haven't heard anything from Romney just yet, but Obama obviously is doing work since he's the guy in charge anyway.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36009: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:36:56 PM

And, no offense to the guy but, considering his weight issues, I don't think he wants to wait eight years before attempting a job that sucks the life right out of you.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#36010: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:39:53 PM

[up][up] Not really. They'll probably only stop campaigning, at least Romney will, in the affected states, and none of them are battleground states.

[up] Precisely. He doesn't want Romney to become president, he wants four more years of Obama, and a bunch of prestige for himself.

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#36011: Oct 30th 2012 at 1:41:12 PM

Obama has a chance to "look Presidential", whatever that means, but especially in contrast to Bush and Katrina. Then again, a disaster triggers resentment against government regardless of who is in charge or if it was preventable, and thousands of voters could be unable to get to the polls next week. Then again again, Romney's stance on defunding FEMA could well bite him in the ass in a knee jerk reflex manner.

Overall this seems likely to have a neutral effect unless Obama botches something badly (or is filmed on national TV rescuing babies or something).

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
LooseCannon The Groose Is Loose from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jun, 2012
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#36013: Oct 30th 2012 at 2:07:33 PM

A question: What are the chances of Biden running for president in 2016?

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36014: Oct 30th 2012 at 2:08:56 PM

He'll likely be amongst the contenders for the nomination.

But unless he can shed the (near as I can tell unwarranted) "crazy old man Biden" meme, I don't think he'd win.

edited 30th Oct '12 2:09:30 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

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GearLeader from Dota Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#36016: Oct 30th 2012 at 2:32:01 PM

I would vote for Biden.

And Obama jumping out of helicopters saving babies XD

But in all seriousness, this is his chance to stop dicking around, and show the American people that he is doing his job while dealing with the Race next week.

Obama is getting my first vote of my life, so here here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXkI1sTDoEg
LooseCannon The Groose Is Loose from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jun, 2012
The Groose Is Loose
#36017: Oct 30th 2012 at 2:35:12 PM

So...my guess is that the presidential race in 2016 will be Biden vs. Christie, provided Obama wins this one.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36018: Oct 30th 2012 at 2:46:16 PM

I'd say really, the hurricane is a great opportunity (horrible as that may be) for both Obama (to look like a president who gets shit done) and Christie (to look like a reasonable republican who cares more about the nation than his politics), and that scares the shit out of the Romney campaign.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#36019: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:00:15 PM

The way I see it is that if FEMA does get its job done, and power and services and aid is handled in an appropriate manner for the next week, Obama can argue "We did what we had to do, and this is why government is good". Which I can see having the potential of undoing, or creating a massive crack, in the Gingrich Revolution of '94, and essentially killing "BIG GOBUMENT EBILZ".

That and if Obama does get re-elected, he can use it to argue "This is why we need a Jobs Bill and why we need to massively update our infrastructure."

I hate to politicize a disaster, but Sandy has the ability to do a lot of damage to the Republican brand.

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#36020: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:13:14 PM

@Fighteer You seem to be forgetting one of Romney's infamous moves when backed into a corner,...denial.

If Obama tries that on him,he will deny ever taking such a stance on FEMA,Fox will back him up,and that will do it.

[up] Katrina should've done that,it seemed to do this in 2006 and 2008,all that happened was the neo-cons fell wayside to regressionists,and it'll happen again. Maybe it'll be the neo-cons again,maybe it'll be the libertarians,but another branch will take over.

Instead the Vocal Minority of said branch will make Obama/(next pres. if 2016 goes to the Dems) go back to his/her (if the Dem candidate is a woman) shell.They will dive everything farther to the right and only gridlock will happen at best. Come to 2014 or 2018,we'll get the same bullshit in 2010 from this wing and they will win.

No it doesn't bode well for the Dems at all.

edited 30th Oct '12 3:20:56 PM by terlwyth

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36021: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:17:19 PM

Honestly, Romney winning isn't bad for the country just because of the policies he'll use. It'll be bad because it validates the strategy that Romney has been using. This has been the most dishonest presidential campaign in the history of ever.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#36022: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:18:17 PM

Its also why I'd prefer Obama to win simply because it validates republicans like Christie who care more about constituencies than scoring poluitical points in a crisis.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#36023: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:31:56 PM

...No, I'm pretty sure Christie cares more about political points than anything, based upon what I know about him. He's a weasel, and he's using the Hurricane to promote Christie 2016, and ensure that Romney doesn't win, ruining Christie's chances of being president.

#36024: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:40:39 PM

Personally I'd like to see either Rubio or Jeb Bush in '16 should Romney win. If I knew that would happen I'd probably have voted against Romney just to make sure it did.

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Karkadinn Karkadinn from New Orleans, Louisiana Since: Jul, 2009
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#36025: Oct 30th 2012 at 3:47:17 PM

...I think we've had enough Bush family presidents, thanks. Let's at least pretend we're not in a thinly-veiled kleptocracy.

Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.

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