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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#352476: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:17:27 PM

When his ass is impeached/convicted, in an orange jumpsuit and sitting in an 8x10 cell, I'll agree with you.

Sad fact is for now, people need to be reminded of what he did until he's punished for it.

Edited by Pendrake on Jan 21st 2021 at 6:18:36 AM

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terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object
#352477: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:19:31 PM

Yeah hopefully the bits about Trump will die down soon. In the meantime, hoping for that bit about egg regulation...

In other news, Fauci looks way happier and younger unmuzzled.

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Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#352478: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:21:14 PM

So, one of the final executive orders of the previous administration served to extend Secret Service protection to the Trump family and former staffers. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-protection-extended-to-trump-family-members-ex-staffers/ar-BB1cYCfW)

Does it strike anyone else that this was just one last opportunity to extend the grift? I can only imagine all of them deciding to hole up in Mar-a-Lago, or other Trump properties.

Edited by Boston on Jan 21st 2021 at 9:22:13 AM

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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#352480: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:22:08 PM

[up][up][up]Having a President who actually LISTENS to him helps.

[up][up]The funny thing there is Trump doesn't realize that, again, the Secret Service is not loyal to him and his family. They're loyal to the US Constitution.

Which means he could easily be an idiot and incriminate himself infront of them. Which they'd report on.

And you can bet your ass the Secret service would be vetting the hell out of who gets assigned to them.

Edited by Pendrake on Jan 21st 2021 at 6:25:03 AM

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RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#352481: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:24:04 PM

Don't worry, we'll have the rest of the Republican party to mock on Late Night shows and live comedy. That's a bottomless well.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#352482: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:27:07 PM

Seeing Doctor Fauci happy is definitely a crowning moment of heartwarming.

Like, I swear he looks ten years younger.

Edited by megaeliz on Jan 21st 2021 at 10:15:56 AM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#352483: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:29:14 PM

"When his ass is impeached/convicted, in an orange jumpsuit and sitting in an 8x10 cell, I'll agree with you. "

I dont know, if they give trump a orange jumpsuit, everyone else might think he is naked all the timeevil grin

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Scarecrow4774 from In Wonderland Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#352484: Jan 21st 2021 at 6:29:42 PM

[up][up][up][up] Going off of that, the only reason why Trump has Secret Service protection for life is that Obama signed it into law again. Before it was only there for ten years IIRC.

Edited by Scarecrow4774 on Jan 21st 2021 at 9:29:52 AM

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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#352485: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:33:06 PM

Something of note about today.

21st day of the 21st year of the 21st century.

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#352486: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:33:29 PM

Neat!

Also, 21 is 3*7 and 3s and 7s tend to be symbolically Important, so that makes it feel like it should be a very significant day.

Edited by Galadriel on Jan 21st 2021 at 10:35:05 AM

Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#352487: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:36:23 PM

Well, it was the first full day of Biden's Presidency. That's something of note.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#352488: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:38:09 PM

Technically, this is only the 20th year of the 21st century. The year 2000 was the last year of the 20th century.

minseok42 A Self-inflicted Disaster from A Six-Tatami Room (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#352489: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:38:59 PM

Speaking of comedy, the Late Show did a parody of Les Misérables saying they only have one day more of Trump jokes.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#352490: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:39:06 PM

Yeah, 2022 would be the actual 21st year.

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#352491: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:39:56 PM

That’s not as numerically tidy.

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#352492: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:40:45 PM

Too bad there's only twelve months in a year.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#352493: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:43:14 PM

[up]Oh please, these last four years have felt long enough at twelve months. You really wanted 84 months of President Trump?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#352494: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:44:38 PM

No one really commented when I posted it before, but for now at least the Democrats seem to not be going for attempts from Mitch to keep the filibuster rules as they are.

Which isn't to say it would be scraped - Schumer wants to go with how things were in 2001, the last time there was a 50-50 split. But it does sound like they're at least trying to preemptively stop Republicans from stone walling as much as they can.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 21st 2021 at 9:44:52 AM

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#352496: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:50:08 PM

[up][up][up]Oops. Was only trying to make the date 21-21-21 possible.

Edited by RainingMetal on Jan 21st 2021 at 10:50:16 AM

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#352497: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:53:37 PM

Uh...if 2000 was the last year of the prior century, making 2001 the first year of the current century, wouldn't basic counting confirm that 2021 is the twenty first year of said century?

I don't want you to complain about the four years of Trump then, because by your counting logic, 2020 was Trump's third year in office. tongue

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#352499: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:56:44 PM

Hmm, clearly I need more coffee this morning.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#352500: Jan 21st 2021 at 7:59:06 PM

The Salt Lake Tribune has a good article on what's going on with the National Monument Review.

Acting on a pledge he made as a candidate, President Joe Biden on Wednesday initiated a first step toward restoring the boundaries of the two formerly large Utah national monuments that Donald Trump had reduced by 2 million acres as a political favor to Utah politicians.

Within the first few hours of taking the oath of office, the White House said the new president signed an executive order calling for, among other moves safeguarding the environment, a review of the boundaries set for Bears Ears, designated by President Barack Obama in 2016, and Grand Staircase-Escalante, designated by President Bill Clinton in 1996.

Any monument review would be headed by Biden's pick for Interior Secretary, Rep. Deb Haaland, D-N.M., an enrolled member of the Laguna Pueblo who refers to herself as a 35th-generation New Mexican. If confirmed, she would be the first Native American to serve in a Cabinet post.

Biden's order directs the secretary to submit a report within 60 days summarizing the review's findings and providing recommendations for achieving the overarching goals of the order.

For Bears Ears specifically, Obama established the 1.3 million-acre monument at the request of 5 Native tribes. Trump cut it by 85%. At the moment, it does appear the monument will be restored to its former area, but the Bears Ears Inter-tribal Coalition is asking that the monument be "redrawn to encompass the tribes' original 1.9 million-acre proposal" which sounds a bit more uncertain.

Utah Republicans are unhappy.

Both monument designations had upset Utah's political leaders who saw them as federal overreach that defied the interests of the state and the wishes of most Utahns.

Utah's entire all-Republican congressional delegation and state elected leaders were quick to oppose Biden's order for a monument review, issuing a joint statement insisting it is "imperative" that Biden "work with state and local elected leaders toward a consensus product, including a permanent solution approved by Congress."

Edited by nova92 on Jan 21st 2021 at 7:59:35 AM


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