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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
We weren't talking about oligarchies.
Moving on:
Obama Rebukes Richard Mourdock for Rape Remarks on ‘Tonight Show’
Mourdock stands by rape remarks, refuses to apologize
If this keeps up, we will be getting ourselves A Democrat Senator in Indiana.
edited 24th Oct '12 9:47:42 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Of Course. But this is about swaying independent voters.
John McCain Pledges To Withdraw Richard Mourdock Support If He Doesn't Apologize
edited 24th Oct '12 9:59:07 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1024/Mourdock-stands-by-rape-remarks-refuses-to-apologize
This article has me a bit confused. And peoples reaction to it in general seem a bit over-the-top. I feel like I'm missing something. Let me see if I understand here. (And please correct me if I'm wrong.)
So Mourdock said he thinks pregnancy from rape is "something God intended." It was a statement that was a bit unclear and could easily rub people the wrong way. Everyone promptly lost their shit.
Then he clarified with: "I spoke from my heart. And speaking from my heart, speaking from the deepest level of my faith, I would not apologize. I would be less than faithful if I said anything other than life is precious, I believe it's a gift from God."
And Mc Cain said he wants to see "if he apologizes and says he misspoke and he was wrong and asks people to forgive him. It's when you don't own up to it that people will not believe in you."
Now, what I don't get is what Mc Cain thinks Mourdoc should apologize for, specifically. For having initially worded his opinion in a way that came off kind of harsh, for having given his opinion on this subject at all, or for having the opinion that abortion is wrong because babies are from God?
I can see why Mc Cain (and anyone, for that matter) would want something like "I'm sorry that I said that in a way that seemed insensitive." or something to that effect. But I don't think he should have to apologize for having given his point of view. And, while I don't agree with Mourdoc's beliefs on the subject of abortion, I think he said it very well the second time. And I like how he said "I would be less than faithful" there. I get the feeling that he honestly believes in what he's saying. And now that I'm typing this I feel weird, because I'm not really into religion and tend to be weary of very religious politicians, but this guy seems kind of nice...
Edit: And I didn't mean for that last sentence to imply that religious people were unpleasant.
edited 24th Oct '12 10:45:50 PM by RockLeeYourFace
"With hard work and dedication, I will become a splendid ninja!"It's much more the implication that rape was something god intended. If you're going to have a pregnancy from rape be ordained to happen, it follows that there needs to be a method of making that pregnancy happen one way or another. It's one thing to make the broad statement of "all pregnancies happen because god intended them," that has multiple implications, but to single out rape pregnancies, well it tends to rile people up.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryI wouldn't be surprised if either Akin or Mourdock won their seats. Maybe even both will, because that's how America works.
Romney's campaign will continue to run that Mourdock-supporting ad in Indiana, by the way, even after making those comments.
edited 24th Oct '12 11:22:28 PM by Serocco
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I realize that Mourdock was speaking what he felt was the truth. Hell, I'm personally against abortions in most cases.
That being said I dislike Mourdock for his economic views, Tea Party support, for questioning the constitutionality of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and for him saying statements like
and
So if this is what sinks Mourdock's renomination to Senate, I won't be shedding any tears. Its sorta like when they caught Al Capone not paying his taxes.
Besides all of Murdock's words basically amount to is 'I believe others shouldn't be allowed abortion because of my own personal religion'
To which I respond with a quote from Joe Biden:
edited 24th Oct '12 11:26:14 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016STOP.
We are not having another abortion debate.
End of subject.
Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen FryI saw a poll in Indiana. Donnelly was up by two on Mourdock... before Mourdock made those comments.
In a Hawaii poll for their Senate race, Meizi Hirono is the Democrat. Linda Lingle is the Republican. In a poll, Hirono had 55%. Lingle had 39%.
edited 25th Oct '12 12:55:43 AM by Serocco
In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.Not sure that it means much, but...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82860.html?hp=f1
Former General and Secretary of State Colin Powell has endorsed Obama and Biden, saying the current administration has done pretty well trying to clean up a huge economic mess.
In before Powell gets branded a RINO by the right and all his accomplishments and accolades ignored.
Still, I can say I'm personally glad. Powell's always been one of the republicans I view as a truly principled, honorable man who uses his head instead of blind ideological faith. Possibly one of the few good advisers Bush Jr Had.
edited 25th Oct '12 7:52:43 AM by Midgetsnowman

NINJA'D:
Technically the "first/second/third world status" was originally about Cold War alliances.
edited 24th Oct '12 9:12:13 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016