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terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#35076: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:34:43 PM

Disagreed,mostly because I hear the accent all the time

Goode was too curt about everything,he didn't really elaborate at all. But Stein was definitely too shaky,I'll agree with that.

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#35077: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:42:17 PM

I'm sorry, are you guys really challenging my statement that LGBT rights aren't as important as every other issue combined?

Seriously?

Vanthebaron, "every other issue combined" is not "the army." It's EVERYTHING. I don't know if you misunderstood, or just have very weird priorities.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35078: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:45:38 PM

Romney campaign says he still supports Indiana Senate candidate after rape comment.

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#35079: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:48:36 PM

[up][up] I'm not.

I have conflicted feelings on the issue though. I might not be the best example.

I'm baaaaaaack
Morgikit Mikon :3 from War Drobe, Spare Oom Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Mikon :3
#35080: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:50:16 PM

[up][up]People get tired of being told their problems aren't a priority, that they'll have to wait until later.

edited 24th Oct '12 4:50:33 PM by Morgikit

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35081: Oct 24th 2012 at 4:52:40 PM

Well everyone's issues can't all be a priority.

As of right now, LGBT rights are right next to Gun Control and Environmentalism in the "issues no one feels like talking about" category.

edited 24th Oct '12 4:56:56 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#35082: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:02:35 PM

If they're in the "no one wants to talk about them" category then why are conservatives fighting so hard to "protect marriage". Quite frankly I feel that conservatives are the ones making things an issue by bringing up "family values" in the first damn place, opening themselves up to criticism by those lobbying for LGBT rights.

Also, protection of LGBT rights ties into things like equal pay, access to proper healthcare, workplace discrimination, etc. So no, they're not less important than everything else by virtue of being tied INTO everything else. Even the military, due to the repeal of DADT and conservative efforts to reinstate that piece of crap policy.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35083: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:06:14 PM

Fine there in the "issues the Democrats don't want to talk about" category.

Still the 3 most important issues in this election are The Economy, Foreign Policy, and Immigration.

edited 24th Oct '12 5:06:47 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#35084: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:10:47 PM

The analysts on al-Jazeera said that this election, foreign policy is not a major issue. They said that before the last debate, and they predicted that both candidates would try to switch the topic to economy as often as possible. And I think that prediction was correct.

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#35085: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:12:07 PM

[up][up] Don't hold your breath - most Republicans in power today and in the past, seem to suck ass at these things...

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35086: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:12:41 PM

[up][up]

Yeah well al-Jazeera are a bunch of fuddy duddies.

edited 24th Oct '12 5:13:02 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#35087: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:13:43 PM

Largely because they're not all that different on foreign policy other than Romney just kind of being less personable about it.

Romney's not really touching gay marriage because he doesn't need to, and Obama's afraid of losing support with disgruntled Republicans at a critical juncture if he makes it a big deal. If Obama actually cares that much (which I doubt — I think he just name-dropped it early on for token support) we might see it during his second term when he has nothing to lose.

edited 24th Oct '12 5:15:16 PM by Pykrete

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#35088: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:13:46 PM

LGBT rights are certainly less important than every other issue combined. If we had gay rights but everyone was penniless and starving, and nuclear war was a reality because of our foreign policy... yeah, that doesn't sound so good. I don't really see that as being particularly relevant, though, since we can maintain the stability of our country and grant LGB Ts equality at the same time.

Honestly, the fact that they're voting against their own interests isn't even all that noteworthy, really. Rural conservatives living in poverty do this all the time.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35089: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:19:45 PM

The sad part is they don't think they are voting against their interests. Yet another reason that we need a more reliable media.

Okay random lol moment. Check the third word (after Chicago, date, etc.) in the article on the second third party debate. Tell me what's wrong with this.tongue

truteal animation elitist from the great southern land Since: Sep, 2009
animation elitist
#35090: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:21:10 PM

Whoever wins Ohio (and to a much lesser extent Florida) will win, that's my theory

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#35091: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:21:20 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35092: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:24:21 PM

[up]

Those Rural Hicks are the backbone of this nation!

..Explains a lot about this nation doesn't it?

EDIT: The Internet wasn't made for learning, it was made for Porn and looking at funny pictures of animals.

edited 24th Oct '12 5:25:31 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#35093: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:26:04 PM

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say anymore Deviant. Though it does sound kind of insulting for some reason. You're not very good at explaining yourself.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35094: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:27:37 PM

[up]

Your comment makes the unfair assumption that my comments have a point to them. tongue

Because of that I'm insulted. tongue

edited 24th Oct '12 5:33:43 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#35095: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:28:54 PM

[up]Our nation sucks because everyone in the world thinks we are as stupid as these poor-ass trash woth vote against things that could help them; they are those who truly need actual help more than they know! What's not to point out?!

It's the cold hard truth.

edited 24th Oct '12 5:30:03 PM by LostAnarchist

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#35096: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:31:39 PM

I think @Lost Anarchist has a bias against Rural Hicks.

Rep. Paul Ryan Talks Upward Mobility: ‘In This War on Poverty, Poverty Is Winning’

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35097: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:37:10 PM

Okay how does that make sense? If the government can't help these people then how can private charities?

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LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#35099: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:42:27 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35100: Oct 24th 2012 at 5:46:41 PM

I just remembered.

"There are 47% of people who do not pay taxes, who are dependent on the government. My job is not to worry about them."

Now it all makes sense.

There's also the fact that just because people are still poor doesn't mean the programs failed. We just had a severe financial meltdown which destroyed many jobs. It's only natural there'd be a lot of people in poverty. Then you have to take into account that maybe if people got decent benefits they'd have money to spend on improving their social standing.


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