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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#34701: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:38:41 PM

RE drone strikes: We have a thread for that topic. Let's take that conversation there.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#34702: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:39:27 PM

Obama won, end of story.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#34703: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:39:32 PM

Elliot Spitzer believes that Obama won on foreign policy, but it was a tie on domestic policy.

John Fugelsang, Cenk Uygur and Jennifer Granholm disagree. Polls agreed with Spitzer last two times. So, how are the polls?

Oh, and Romney didn't talk about the Benghazi attack.

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:39:57 PM by Serocco

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storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#34704: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:40:17 PM

RE drone strikes: We have a thread for that topic. Let's take that conversation there.

Sorry about that.

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Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#34705: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:40:21 PM

What an ass kicking ^^

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#34706: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:41:20 PM

Conservatives will be angry at Romney for not saying anything about Benghazi.

Too bad the drug war and the NDAA weren't brought up.

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Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#34707: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:42:07 PM

Hey guys, do me a favor and spread around that NYT Op-Ed where Romney says to let Detroit go bankrupt. It's a certifiable articulation of his real opinion of American automakers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=4&

johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Actual Wrestling Legend
#34708: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:42:21 PM

I loved how Mitt's performance was the natural outcome of nominating a Wall Street twit for the highest office in the land. Everything keeps coming back to business.

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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#34709: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:42:37 PM

@jonnyfrog "Should this war be fought?"

I wish I had an answer to that. On one hand, I'd like to believe that a campaign to win hearts and mind, to address the root of the problem would be more effective than violence. On the other, I can't deny that our current policy has been seemingly effective at crushing out Al-Quida.

I'm a Utilitarianist, so the result matter more than some arbitrary concept of justice. However, I can't help but have the lingering fear that all we've done is created another generation of vengeance-hungery extremists. I also wonder if the whole "war on terror" was more about revenge for a tragic, but isolated incident than any attempt to stem the problem.

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:44:09 PM by DrTentacles

LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#34710: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:43:05 PM

@Serocco, that should be enough to sink Romney, as far as I'm concerned.

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DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#34711: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:43:11 PM

Not sure why the NDAA would be brought up in a foreign policy debate.

But the Drug War should have been mentioned.

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:43:28 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#34712: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:43:52 PM

I imagine Romney was afraid the Bhengazi thing was going to blow up on in his face again.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#34713: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:43:56 PM

Johnnyfog: It's like the Muppets say: The business of business is business.

Dr Tentacles: That's exactly what the War on Terror is. If not for 9/11 we'd have left the Middle East to do as it wanted.

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:44:29 PM by Watashiwa

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#34714: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:44:53 PM

Why would they mention the drug war? It's not like either of them has anything interesting to say on it and it's not a priority issue to most voters.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#34715: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:45:47 PM

If the Americans like their money so much, they should care more about the drug war, because it's trillions in a wasted effort at a war on a concept.

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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Cephalopod Lothario
#34716: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:46:09 PM

As I get older, I'm more convinced that it was just pointless revenge. And the thing about revenge is that revenge breed revenge. Nothing will restore the lives lost. Sometimes, you just have to accept that seeking vengeance always causes more suffering in the long run.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#34717: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:46:19 PM

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True.

But Mitt talked a bit about the promise of the growing Latin America market, so I thought the Drug War might get a mention.

edited 22nd Oct '12 7:46:59 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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mailedbypostman Since: May, 2010
#34718: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:47:29 PM

@Dr. Tentacles: Unfortunately, while you and others grow to realize this, many others are learning the opposite lesson.

johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Actual Wrestling Legend
#34719: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:48:01 PM

Romney foreign policy:

"RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR! ATTACK DRONE: THE GREAT COMMUNICATOR!"

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DirectorCannon Since: Nov, 2011
#34720: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:49:19 PM

Everybody, at youtube.com/politics Gary Johnson is discussing the debate with Philip De Franco and Elliot Morgan on the Philip De Franco tab.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#34721: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:49:26 PM

Yes but ending the Drug War isn't yet the mainstream position. And right now it's mostly a distraction.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#34722: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:49:35 PM

I get the feeling sometimes that if we had decided not to get sidetracked with Iraq things would've been better for everyone. War on Terror? You can't kill an idea, all you've created is a Forever War.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#34723: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:49:36 PM

17 of Romney's national security advisers were from the Bush administration.

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mailedbypostman Since: May, 2010
#34724: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:50:40 PM

That makes a great deal of sense.

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#34725: Oct 22nd 2012 at 7:51:12 PM

Love how this debate put strong emphasis on Romney being a flip flop fuck. I can see Jon Stewart ripping Romney a new one tomorrow night cool

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