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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#344926: Dec 28th 2020 at 4:09:27 PM

The House overrid Trump's veto of the 2020 NDAA. Still needs to go to the Senate."

This is the bill about renaming military bases?

Edited by WillKeaton on Dec 28th 2020 at 5:10:16 AM

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#344927: Dec 28th 2020 at 4:14:04 PM

So is the Senate voting to raise the stimulus to $2k before or after the Georgia runoffs?

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#344928: Dec 28th 2020 at 4:33:05 PM

"This is the land of opportunity. If you don't have access to it, you have not put in the effort to better yourself. If you fall on the lower end of the scale due to circumstance or ill luck, it's not our job to prop you up. The economy is a sorting hat that elevates the worthy and leaves the unworthy behind. If you are unwilling or unable to take advantage of it, you don't deserve anyone's help.

This is something that people genuinely believe."

Yes, and with an addendum that one should be kind and charitable toward people you actually know: ie, your neighbors, members of your congregation, co-workers you know by name, that sort of thing. The rest of the world can burn.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344929: Dec 28th 2020 at 4:55:45 PM

So is the Senate voting to raise the stimulus to $2k before or after the Georgia run

Potentially never, Mitch isn’t required to bring bills up for a vote.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#344930: Dec 28th 2020 at 5:17:10 PM

[up] If he doesn't, that's the messaging we need in Georgia.

Edited by megaeliz on Dec 28th 2020 at 8:19:00 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#344932: Dec 28th 2020 at 5:36:42 PM

[up] That's almost as many people who voted for Biden in Georgia.

I'm not sure if Schumer has some sort of power he can invoke over this, but he did day this earlier:

"The House will pass a bill to give Americans $2,000 checks. Then I will move to pass it in the Senate."

He promised no Senate Democrats will object and dared Senate Republican to do the same.

Edit: Okay, turns out any one senator can move to pass a bill, but by the same token any one senator can object and that kills the motion dead.

Edited by Parable on Dec 28th 2020 at 5:47:37 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344933: Dec 28th 2020 at 5:48:13 PM

If Schumer has had a way to force senate votes on bills and hasn’t been using it before now...

It’s possible there’s some special exception, I’m wondering if the majority leader gets first crack at the senate schedule, as long as it’s full nobody else can put anything in it, but right now it’s empty because the senate is meant to be done, so Schumer can actually put something on the schedule himself.

Edit: [up] Where are you finding that? I’ve found the rules around how a Motion to Proceed or a Unanimous Consent Request work, but nothing around who can schedule such a motion or request.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 28th 2020 at 1:49:50 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#344934: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:07:49 PM

Regarding the NDAA veto override, does the Senate/Mitch have to take a vote on the override? Or can Mitch just murder the bill on his desk?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#344935: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:16:42 PM

I believe if the Senate doesn't override the bill, it's dead by default.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#344936: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:20:47 PM

According to this article, "...The Senate Democratic leader, Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York, announced Monday that he planned to try and quickly pass the measure in the GOP-led chamber through requesting a unanimous consent agreement, which can be blocked by any senators who opposes it."

It sounds like some special procedure that can get a bill to the floor but can't guarantee it will come to a vote.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344937: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:25:32 PM

[up]X3 It’s the military budget, so while Mitch can kill it he’d be defunding the entire US military if he did.

[up] Right, so Mitch can still kill it personally by objecting himself while having all the other Republicans support it.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344938: Dec 28th 2020 at 6:50:48 PM

Depends what Mitch sees in it. I don't think they'd do it unless they knew something we didn't.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#344939: Dec 28th 2020 at 7:12:13 PM

[up][up]So Schumer is basically grandstanding here?

i'm tired, my friend
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344940: Dec 28th 2020 at 7:33:29 PM

Yea and no, Mitch would still have to personally walk onto the senate floor and vote against having the COVID-relief increase get a debate, that’d make great footage for the Dems in Georgia to include in an ad asking if people want Mitch running the senate.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#344941: Dec 28th 2020 at 7:37:13 PM

Mitch is at least asking his Senators to override the NDAA veto. Gotta wonder how Georgia two most famous insider traders will vote though, because either move gives their opponents ammo (and opposing Trump could invoke his ire right before all those Republicans go out to vote in person...).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#344942: Dec 28th 2020 at 7:50:56 PM

Mitch will get one of his Republican Senate minions to object to it for him.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#344943: Dec 28th 2020 at 7:52:35 PM

You think Mitch himself will object? Nah, he'll have people lining up to lick his boots for the privilege. If nothing else Graham or Cruz won't miss the chance.

It's been fun.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344944: Dec 28th 2020 at 8:23:58 PM

[up][up][up] They already have Trump's ire, really.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#344945: Dec 28th 2020 at 9:05:53 PM

Rand Paul opposes even very bipartisan legislation for idiotic reasons, so Mitch probably won't have to do a thing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#344947: Dec 28th 2020 at 10:53:35 PM

Surprised that site was even still around. Last I heard of it was a little after the hashtag that shall not be named, and then it disappeared in favor of 8Chan.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344948: Dec 29th 2020 at 12:09:12 AM

Bernie threatens to filbuster until 2000 checks are voted on.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernie-sanders-threatens-to-filibuster-defense-bill-unless-senate-allows-vote-on-stimulus-payments-11609210350

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#344949: Dec 29th 2020 at 12:51:34 AM

Bernie, please quit your showboating, you are not helping.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#344950: Dec 29th 2020 at 1:00:00 AM

Actually, if this is what I think it is, I'm actually kind of vaguely on his side, which is pretty surprising.

Having said that, I suspect it isn't what I think it is.

Leviticus 19:34

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