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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I think its sometimes the nature of the Left to believe the Right have Delusions of Eloquence.
They assume there's some big misunderstood Well-Intentioned Extremist motivation that will allow them to be a Worthy Opponent or Noble Demon.
When, in fact, it could just be they vote for the GOP because they don't like the idea of better conditions for brown people, gays, or the poor in general. The thing is that these are very often what they openly state their reasoning for. Ronald Reagan ran against "welfare queens", "criminal slums", and "immorality"
Just like Trump and the Latins.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 24th 2020 at 4:09:39 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I have a neighbor who votes Republican because he believes in all the conspiracy theories. We aren't dealing with diabolical geniuses here.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The are no "The" Republicans. There are a hundred different reasons to vote for that party, and some of them contradict each other.
This isn't really meaningful when we're talking about national politics, obviously, you can find any number of individual variation of how they describe motivations but that doesn't mean they can't have common values.
Such as white grievance in the case of the party as a whole.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWell, yes and no. "Republicans" are technically the voters, they elect the policy makers, and they have hundreds of reasons for doing so, some of which are illogical and self-contradictory (but no more so than Democratic voters). The policy makers are divided into a small number of factions: there's the evangelicals, the fiscal conservatives (ie, cut taxes), racists of various degrees, foreign policy hawks, and those beholden to the billionaire class and their interests. Many elected Republicans cross between several of these categories. At least three things unite them: Small Government (low taxes), a belief in individual responsibility (what happens to people is mostly a result of their own choices), and a low tolerance for social change and risk (no challenging surprises). A fair number of them feel greater loyalty to their locality than to the country as a whole.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.I would have preferred Warren; it does warrant consideration, however, that our opportunity to retake the Senate right now wouldn't exist if she or Sanders had beaten Trump in Biden's place.
Without the Senate, a sitting President will be paralyzed no matter who they are.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Democrats as a whole preferred Warren for president and Biden for presidential candidate. Polling consistently showed that if Democrats could just make one of the primary candidates president they’d have picked Warren. But Biden was seen as more electable, which considering how close things were, might well have been key.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranShe was my fave as well, but I think relitigating the primaries is a common enough thread-derailer that maybe we should try to avoid it...
EDIT: darn triple-
s invalidatin’ me arrows
Edited by coruscatingInquisitor on Dec 25th 2020 at 2:29:50 AM
My first launched Trope!Yeah if Dems win the senate than she will be active there as the tiebreaker, if the Dems loose the senate I’d personally like to see her try and reclaim some of Mitch’s powers that technically are VP powers.
Edited by Silasw on Dec 24th 2020 at 3:36:12 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

The general impression I get with libertarians is that they're usually people who buy a little too strongly into a sort of "cult of freedom". This means a few things:
- They tend to buy heavily into the American Civil Religion, viewing the purpose of America to almost exclusively mean 'freedom' and that America is good as long as it stays towards that purpose. They tend to have a sort of "Paradise Lost" attitude about the US, believing it to be a fallen utopia of some kind.
- A deontological belief in 'live and let live' values. These morals sound good on paper, but are in practice naïve at best or callous at worst. These values are, again, deontological and are not especially flexible to
- As a consequence of the above, an extreme aversion to the concept of duty, viewing the idea of societal obligation as a form of evil.
- Nihilistic dislike of The Establishment. Note that it's a nihilistic, bothsidering dislike of the government. Both parties suck, because they hate your freedom or something.
- They tend to support a social policy that might be called "Social Amoralism". They oppose social Conservatism, but more because they want people to "free", not necessarily "equal".
Leviticus 19:34