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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#344576: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:31:07 PM

[up][up][up][up] Does he mention anything about the new one proposed yesterday?

Edited by Kaiseror on Dec 23rd 2020 at 2:31:41 PM

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#344577: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:31:27 PM

[up][up]

Well, given that Trump is the one who vetoed the legislation because it doesn't give enough of a boost to people, and the Democrats are in a rare moment of agreement with him, that leaves the GOP holding the bag.

Edit: Nix that, the bill Trump vetoed was the Defense Spending bill, likely for the fact that it didn't repeal the Section 930(?) that would have punished Twitter for censoring him.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:33:55 PM

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#344579: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:41:38 PM

[up][up][up]Have you tried searching the Internet for more information? A cursory Google search could bring something up.

It might be a better use of your time then standing around, waiting for somebody to explain things to you, if you would forgive my rudeness.

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:43:11 PM

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#344580: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:42:38 PM

[up][up][up] Was that the larger relief bill you mentioned or something else entirely?

I guess it doesn't matter. I'm forced to assume that whenever trumps want a boost to people, he specifically meant white people specifically. And that he would veto anything that tries to help those outside that demographic.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:43:26 PM

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#344581: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:44:08 PM

[up]

No, in this case he pretty explicitly wanted to remove protections for social media companies regarding user-generated content as a means to punish Twitter for daring to fact-check him. The man is that petty.

He also lumped in China at the last minute, probably as a dual means of making it look more like a valid objection and to muddy the waters further regarding the Russia data hack.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:45:17 PM

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#344582: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:49:06 PM

[up][up][up] I've tried but everything I found just talks about the bill itself and what it could mean, not when he is going to try to get it through and who likely it will get through.

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#344583: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:50:13 PM

[up]x2 He also vetoed it because it changes the names of Military Bases that use Confederate "Heroes" like Robert E. Lee.

If the House and/or Senate fail to over ride this veto because Republicans are afraid of Trump, I can't see how Active Military members don't start becoming more Democratic, especially in Georgia and the rest of 2021.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:50:25 PM

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#344584: Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:53:06 PM

[up][up]...Then wait for more articles to pop up. They can only write so much in so much time.

I'm sorry but this doesn't seem to be getting you anywhere so it's best to put it away for now.

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:56:23 PM

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#344585: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:02:39 PM

Trump didn’t threaten to veto it because of the copyright but, he doesn’t care about that and it’s not as big a deal as the actual government budget or the COVID relief.

Also he hasn’t vetoed the bill with the copyright in it, he’s vetoed a different bill, the defence one.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 23rd 2020 at 9:05:37 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344586: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:09:19 PM

Any chance of a veto override in that case?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#344587: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:20:10 PM

I imagine you can't veto a veto. That would rather defeat the point of having veto powers.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#344588: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:22:06 PM

A Congressional override is a veto of a veto.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344589: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:23:41 PM

Yes.

You can override the Presidential veto and has happened multiple times to Trump already.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344590: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:24:25 PM

It requires a 2/3 vote, however, which is why I'd normally never expect it but this was passed with a veto-proof majority and there's less reason to go along with Trump now.

[up] it has? I know he's vetoed a couple things but I don't recall ever hearing of them being overridden. No way Trump would have stayed quiet about that.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:25:14 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#344591: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:26:52 PM

Among the reasons cited for his veto: Section of the bill to rename military bases named after Confederate generals.

The military that defends the country won't get paid unless Trump gets to honor people that tried to destroy the country.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#344592: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:28:57 PM

According to the LA Times [1], if Congress overrides his veto, it will be the first time this happened during Trump's presidency.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344593: Dec 23rd 2020 at 1:31:17 PM

I think it's the difference between Trump backing down from a veto-proof majority and actually having his veto overridden.

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#344594: Dec 23rd 2020 at 2:32:30 PM

Yeah I think that in past instances either Trump or the Republicans have backed down, meaning there was either no veto or no override.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#344595: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:37:14 PM

So, obviously, because it is mostly trending on Twitter, I am going to take this with a grain of salt. There seems to be a supposedly leaked Zoom Call of Joe Biden circling around, where he supposedly says (and I quote)

"This country is doomed... it is doomed. Not just because of african americans, but because by 2040 this country is going to be minority White European."

Here is a link to one of the recordings https://www.reddit.com/r/scandinavia/comments/kip9jy/joe_biden_this_country_is_doomed_it_is_doomed_not/

Is this genuine?

Edited by Forenperser on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:38:54 PM

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#344596: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:41:52 PM

Sounds like bullshit

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344598: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:46:53 PM

[up][up][up]If it were Trump saying that I'd believe it. Biden not so much.

If he were going to racistly blame someone I'd expect him to go for Hispanics given how Florida went.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:47:09 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#344599: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:49:23 PM

"If we cannot make progress on racial equity then this country is doomed."

Bolded part is what the person who clipped that conveniently left out. This is from a Zoom call Biden had with civil rights leaders a week or so ago that we discussed earlier. He's actually talking about how Democrats need to do better to reach Hispanic voters.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#344600: Dec 23rd 2020 at 3:50:50 PM

Yeah, fakes like this are gonna be increasingly common in the future. People have been learning how to fake videos as well.


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