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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344476: Dec 22nd 2020 at 2:49:12 PM

He raised 300,000,000 (at least) and spent only 6 million on fighting the election.

That's a third of his inhuman country-sized billion dollar debt.

Honestly, that should be enough to get him out of any immediate danger. Debts are only called in when you can't pay the interest.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 22nd 2020 at 2:49:44 AM

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#344477: Dec 22nd 2020 at 2:53:58 PM

Normal debts are only called in when you can’t pay interest, mob-debts operate under different rules.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 10:54:21 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344478: Dec 22nd 2020 at 2:55:24 PM

Trump is the mobster, though.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#344479: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:02:55 PM

You forgot "wannabe" before "mobster"

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#344480: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:04:31 PM

Dunno, I mean he has more power than all regular mobsters.

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#344481: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:06:55 PM

Trump is a small-time monster, his debts are to the Russian mob.

[up] For another month he does, but then it all goes away.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 11:07:28 AM

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djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#344482: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:10:22 PM

[up] Meh, I doubt that any criminal organization is going to risk going after the ex president just to break his kneecaps.

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#344483: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:22:10 PM

Break his kneecaps no, but release publicly evidence of his and/or his children’s illegal activities?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#344484: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:35:43 PM

I find this very strange. I can't imagine Trump taking a debt that he can't bankrupt away. I mean, bankruptcy is his core business, isn't it?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#344485: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:37:38 PM

Since when does Trump have debts to the mob?

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#344486: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:49:40 PM

Don't take their comments literally,Trump getting his money from the mob is unfounded for now but it does feel incredibly likely at times

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#344487: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:49:48 PM

That’s his Deutsche Bank loans, they’re not actually from Deutsche Bank, they’re simply acting as a front for either the Russian mob or the Russian government (the line between the two is often blurry).

Deutsche Bank has a long history of banking activity for criminal groups, its done dealing for Iran, Sudan, Gadaffi, Putin, Burma and Assad. This is a bank that’s been busted for breaching international human rights sanctions.

Oh and it also lent money to Epstein, you know, the guy who trafficked in children.

The entire bank should be levelled and the senior leadership charged with crimes against humanity.

[up]X3 Yeah that’s why nobody in American will lend him money anymore, this trick got worked out so he had to go to Russian for his money.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 11:53:28 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#344488: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:53:17 PM

Well if there is no proof that they knew of this....

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#344489: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:54:22 PM

Epstein was a convicted child sex trafficker as of 2008, the bank leant him money up to 2019.

The bank was fined for money laundering for Russia in 2017 and in 2015 was fined for doing business with regimes under sanctions for human rights abuses.

It was also a key player in causing the 2008 financial crash.

I’m not kidding when I say that in a just world the senior leadership would be serving life sentences for crimes against humanity.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 11:59:49 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#344490: Dec 22nd 2020 at 3:58:28 PM

Not to traffic in conspiracy theory but two Presidents of the bank connected to the Trump loans have committed suicide within a couple of years of one another.

Even if it wasn't murder, what did they know and why?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#344491: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:07:11 PM

How does a big national bank get away with this stuff?

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Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#344492: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:08:28 PM

I believe the 'big national bank' part has something to do with it.

When you wield the money of the entire world, laws tend to be pretty meaningless.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#344493: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:10:45 PM

I also imagine that the ties to dictatorial regimes, the Russian mob and whatever international pedo circuit Epstein ran probably help keep the bank safe. That’s a powerful set of friends.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 12:12:02 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#344494: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:31:46 PM

The term "too big to jail" was coined specifically to refer to financial institutions. It's why Warren was my favored AG pick before the Senate got too close, because she doesn't believe in the concept.

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#344495: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:42:18 PM

Trump issued 20 pardons/commutations. Link.

Among them are Nicholas Slatten, who was serving life after shooting Iraqi civilians as part of Blackwater; Duncan Hunter, who misused campaign funds for personal gain; and figures in the Mueller probe.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:42:44 AM

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#344496: Dec 22nd 2020 at 4:44:28 PM

In a move surprising absolutely no one, Trump Pardons Two Russia Inquiry Figures and Blackwater Guards

EDIT: [nja]'d

Edited by ScubaWolf on Dec 22nd 2020 at 7:44:45 AM

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#344497: Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:13:11 PM

Trump puts up a video on Twitter urging Congress to amend the COVID-19 relief bill to increase the direct payments to $2000.

Edited by tclittle on Dec 22nd 2020 at 7:13:17 AM

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#344498: Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:14:53 PM

...Wait what?

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#344499: Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:16:14 PM

[up][up] If he does veto it, it would actually be a good thing due to the copyright crap on the bill.

Edited by CookingCat on Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:17:53 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344500: Dec 22nd 2020 at 5:16:58 PM

It’s not his money, so he’s fine spending it in an attempt to make himself more popular.

If it wasn’t for Mitch’s ability to stop things being even bought up for vote Dems could add that in and make some great political hay.

[up] You’re really rooting for a government shutdown and no COVID relief because of a copyright amendment that we’re not even sure is in the bill anymore?

I think you should reevaluate your priorities.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 22nd 2020 at 1:18:02 PM

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