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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#344401: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:21:26 PM

TBH, at this Rate, i think Pornhub's just toast. that verification bit that put in place a bit back pretty much made about 80% at minimum of the stuff on it no longer watchable at all.

Edited by Pendrake on Dec 21st 2020 at 5:25:10 AM

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#344402: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:28:00 PM

To quote the top comment:

Hypothetical: I am filmed having sex. This video is uploaded to Porn Hub with a faked consent form. I discover the video and ask Porn Hub to remove it. They have to gather and store whatever information is necessary to add me to a "do not upload" list, which includes PII as well as confirmation somehow that I was in the video. When that data gets compromised (because like all data online, eventually, it will), not only do they have my PII but also they have a list of videos that I attest to appearing in.

Every single time a suggestion to do something involves keeping a nice, neat database listing everyone that could ever be considered a victim...

Honestly, the Ars Technica comments are pretty good, they manage to go through how this once again harms the people it's supposed to help directly, and the usual bizarre definitions that would presumably require this level of verification and restriction for anything featuring no human actors whatsoever. It's just another anti-porn bill, with Think of the Children! replaced with a different group.

Edited by RainehDaze on Dec 21st 2020 at 1:33:20 PM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#344403: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:29:30 PM

@Will Keaton: No. Congresscritters can't be forced to act in good faith, ever.

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#344404: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:36:39 PM

We really need to get the boomers out of all of our key leadership roles.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#344405: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:38:15 PM

We do know Chuck and Nancy support it.

Can you share a source on that? All I’ve seen so far is that they want the bill generally, nothing say they’re supporting this specific amendment. Especially as Pelosi has previously stopped the amendment becoming law.

Is there actually any way of stopping it from being attached to other bills indefinitely?

Only voting him out.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 21st 2020 at 1:39:36 PM

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#344406: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:40:34 PM

[up][up] Or at least everyone who refuses to listen to an IT professional before trying to implement computer regulation.

Not that it would help with the ideologically motivated anti-porn brigade, but you'd maybe get a few less well-meaning idiots signing onto something outright backwards again.

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#344407: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:42:45 PM

Or at least everyone who refuses to listen to an IT professional before trying to implement computer regulation.

In other words, we need to get the Boomers out of leadership roles :V

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#344408: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:44:02 PM

Hey, there might be a boomer who listens and a not-boomer who doesn't. tongue

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#344409: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:45:06 PM

[up]I’d wager there are plenty of the latter at least.

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Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#344410: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:47:17 PM

That, and remember not EVERY baby boomer is an ignorant tool. Probably roughly the same amount of those for Xs through Zeds, just on different things, after all.

The whole "anti-porn" thing is really just an outdated "conservative values" movement. Likely currently being brought up to change the narrative, as usual. Catering to the masses who voted them in and all that.

[up] Definitely in the case of Zoomers, given a lot of them call ANYONE born before them "Boomers." It's happened to me at least a dozen times, and I'm just barely a Gen Xer (born Mid-1980s, youngest in the family). It's pretty much just their go-to insult if they're disagreed with at all, much like a certain American Political party and "Communist/Socialist."

Edited by Pendrake on Dec 21st 2020 at 5:56:54 AM

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#344411: Dec 21st 2020 at 5:59:14 PM

I'm know I'm the resident guy who keeps harping about California, but the LA Times just released a new article that does more to explain the tactics behind the 4 Republican victories there:

  • Although most Asian-Americans voted for Democrats, the Republicans made the greater effort to specifically court Asian-American voters.
  • The main method was by appealing to many Asian-American immigrants' concern with foreign policy in contrast to second-generation AAP Is who are more concerned with US domestic policy. Said main foreign policy issue many single-issue AAPI immigrants are concerned about is China and the spread of communism/socialism.
  • The California Republicans made huge efforts to, ironically, recruit immigrant voters by publishing non-English materials and deploying bilingual volunteers who could sway Asian-American immigrants not fluent in English, and thus more likely to fall into the Republicans' powerful non-English media bubble.
  • The defeated California Democrat candidates support the notion that the Republicans not giving a fuck about pandemic safety can them a crucial advantage in courting voters while the Democrat campaigns handicapped themselves to obey Governor Newsom's restrictions.
  • The victorious Republicans relied on a substantial demographic of Californians who wanted Trump out of office and voted for Biden, but still felt disgruntled with local California Democrats enough to vote for Republicans down ballot.
  • The California Republicans have recruited a base of conservative Latinos who have served as police officers or military personnel, which blindsided Democrats who underestimated the numbers of conservative Latinos.

  • The California Republicans are much more cautious than their peers elsewhere in the country, and regularly criticize or try to distract from Trump's national policies when confronted about them. They instead portray themselves as being concerned with local California politics first and foremost, and as an "alternative to Trumpism" within the GOP.

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#344412: Dec 21st 2020 at 6:00:01 PM

Unfortunately the whole anti-porn thing goes much deeper than just boomers. Sure, on the whole I'd wager younger people have more favorable views of sex work overall, but sex work as a whole is still the one field where people will gladly "use" the workers and then toss them aside like trash without even any lip service to their work being of real value. It's viewed as an inherently undignified profession where anyone in it at best is an exploited victim. It's one of the most deeply rooted societal values out there unfortunately.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 21st 2020 at 11:01:05 AM

Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#344413: Dec 21st 2020 at 6:02:49 PM

Joy of ingrained taboo.

There are places in the world where legal prostitution actually does work and has a lot of legal oversight, IIRC, like the Netherlands. course, I believe they actually get monthly checkups and health benefits there too. that said, the taboo still exists there as well.

Course, the Pandemic's caused all sorts of havoc on that front too.

Is a rather good quote involving reps of the workers (who're currently out of a job as legal brothels are shut down) saying this: "politicians talk about them, rather than talking with them, which leads to wrong decisions, based on the loudest voices, in stead of listening to experienced sex workers."

Edited by Pendrake on Dec 21st 2020 at 6:45:54 AM

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#344414: Dec 21st 2020 at 6:56:22 PM

Hearing that Biden will nominate Miguel Cardona for Secretary of Education. Link

That leaves Attorney General, Commerce and Labor Secretaries as key positions that haven't been announced yet.

Edited by nova92 on Dec 21st 2020 at 6:56:46 AM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#344415: Dec 21st 2020 at 6:57:03 PM

He has one tough job ahead of him.

Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#344416: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:07:39 PM

Specially since as of 2018, the US is roughly 27th on education rank in the world.

It was 6th back in the 90s.

Somewhat ironically, the system itself is the second-best in the world, which means the problem most likely lies in accessibility to it in the first place.

Edited by Pendrake on Dec 21st 2020 at 7:13:19 AM

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#344417: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:10:48 PM

[up]X3 Also CIA director and Administrator of the small Business Administration.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 21st 2020 at 3:11:02 PM

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#344418: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:17:01 PM

There's also a bunch of other sketchy shit in the COVID Relief Bill besides the copyright stuff. It gives five hundred million dollars to Israel, tax cuts for horse race owners, doubling of the health care budget for Congress members only, tax deductions for three olive martinis for business lunch meetings, and thirty three million for "democracy programs in Venezuela": https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1341146037470326786?s=21, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-unconscionable-outrage-over-the-three-martini-lunch-tax-deduction-in-the-new-coronavirus-aid-deal-2020-12-21 and https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1341132209407836170

Edited by CookingCat on Dec 21st 2020 at 7:58:01 AM

Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
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#344420: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:30:43 PM

tax deductions for three olive martinis for business lunch meetings
Talk about Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking.

I get why they slip blatantly hyperconservative stuff into the mix, is it common for frivolous stuff like that to get thrown in too?

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#344421: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:34:15 PM

What are the chances that the copyright stuff will be removed before they become a problem?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#344422: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:40:51 PM

It doesn’t have to be removed as much as not included in the house version, if it’s not part of the negotiations it should go the same way it did last time.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#344423: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:42:39 PM

[up]x5 A reminder that the COVID bill was tied into the omnibus package that has to be passed, so a lot of the seemingly random stuff is part of the latter, not the former. The "three martini lunch" thing is total BS, though.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Dec 21st 2020 at 7:43:56 AM

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#344424: Dec 21st 2020 at 8:09:09 PM

They do that to buy votes,pure and simple. Some congressman promised to support it in exchange for a provision or two. Whether any particular provision stays in the bill depends on whether they really need that person's vote or not. This is just how Congress works.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#344425: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:14:18 PM

[up][up] Yep, the COVID relief bill was rolled in with an omnibus government spending bill, so some of the stuff that is unrelated to COVID is part of the latter, not the former.

CBS News:

Both chambers of Congress on Monday night passed a $900 billion relief measure designed to provide long-awaited assistance to Americans, small businesses and industries ailing from the coronavirus pandemic. The $900 billion package is paired with a $1.4 trillion omnibus spending bill that funds the federal government through September.

The House of Representatives vote was divided into two parts. Part One, which included the Defense; Commerce, Justice, Science; Homeland Security; and Financial Services sections of the omnibus, passed by a vote of 327 to 85. Part Two included eight spending bills - including the COVID relief bill - and passed by a margin of 359 to 53.

The measures were then bundled together and sent to the Senate, where it passed by a vote of 91-7. The bill now heads to the White House for the president's signature.

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