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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#343826: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:15:15 AM

Trump has threatened not to leave the White House on Inauguration Day, report says

President Donald Trump is said to be in denial about his election loss and has told some of his advisors he won't leave the White House on Inauguration Day, according to CNN.

Few believe Trump would actually follow through on threats to squat at the White House, according to CNN's report, published Wednesday.

"He's throwing a f—-ing temper tantrum," one advisor told CNN. "He's going to leave. He's just lashing out."

It's been nearly six weeks since President-elect Joe Biden's victory became clear, and Trump has still not acknowledged his loss.

Some Republicans who had held off acknowledging Biden's win, notably Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc Connell, did so this week after the Electoral College confirmed it with a vote.

Trump, however, continues to push a claim that Biden stole the election through widespread voter fraud, a theory that even his own outgoing attorney general recently said was not supported by evidence.

CNN reports that Trump has frozen out advisors and associates who have tried to get him to accept the loss.

One person, who described himself as previously speaking with Trump regularly, said the president hadn't returned calls since he tried to get him to reevaluate his stance on the results.

The CNN report cited advisors as saying Trump had begun to privately accept his loss late last month but then changed his mind and appeared to truly believe he was robbed of the election.

"He's been fed so much misinformation that I think he actually thinks this thing was stolen from him," a Trump advisor told CNN.

Multiple sources who spoke with CNN said Trump had made it clear to his staff that he didn't want to talk about whether he'd attend Biden's swearing-in ceremony.

People close to him told the outlet they thought it was highly unlikely that he would go.

Business Insider reached out to the White House for comment on the CNN report but did not immediately receive a response Thursday morning. The White House declined to comment to CNN.

...Fucking hell.

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#343827: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:16:59 AM

I'm totally fine if Trump doesn't show up for the swearing-in. Good riddance.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#343828: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:18:52 AM

Good. Drag him out kicking and screaming, humiliate him in front of the whole world.

Edited by Forenperser on Dec 17th 2020 at 3:19:09 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#343829: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:19:01 AM

Biden probably should avoid shaking hands with him anyway.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#343830: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:20:42 AM

He's leaving one way or another. If he has to be dragged out kicking and screaming, he's leaving.

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Mega Togekiss?!
#343831: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:22:03 AM

I don't think he'll be dragged out of the White House on Inauguration Day. Rather I think he will try to leave early for Mar-A-Lago so he feels more sure that the authorities won't be able to investigate him for tax fraud. Although the people at Mar-A-Lago are trying to prevent Donald from moving in.

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#343832: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:23:46 AM

Looks like Trump's "Bunker Moment" is steadily approaching...

Only this time, it will be a lot less messy and less fatal than the other one.

Wonder if his cult will rally up to attack anyone trying to drag him out from the White House on the day he will be thrown out from it...

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#343834: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:28:35 AM

Wonder if his cult will rally up to attack anyone trying to drag him out from the White House on the day he will be thrown out from it...
That's my concern as well. It's pretty much a given he will be thrown out on 1/20, it's this last month of Trump radicalizing his supporters to keep him in the White House by any means necessary that will be the big problem.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#343835: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:32:09 AM

I don't think he'll be dragged out of the White House on Inauguration Day. Rather I think he will try to leave early for Mar-A-Lago so he feels more sure that the authorities won't be able to investigate him for tax fraud. Although the people at Mar-A-Lago are trying to prevent Donald from moving in.

The smart money is on him leaving the country (to Russia maybe?) to escape the reach of the New York courts which should be after him the moment he loses the title of President. I dunno if Trump belongs in the same sentence as "smart" though.

Edited by Clarste on Dec 17th 2020 at 6:34:13 AM

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#343836: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:33:16 AM

"He's been fed so much misinformation that I think he actually thinks this thing was stolen from him," a Trump advisor told CNN.
I know this isn't anything new and this thread has noted the symbiotic relationship between him and right-wing news for a while now, but this part still stuck out to me.

Almost makes me wonder how much of Trump's delusions were fed to him by his base and not vice-versa. It gets hard to tell sometimes.

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#343837: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:36:58 AM

Chicken and the egg, pal. It doesn't matter, we just have to take their platform away from them so that they are powerless.

Wake me up at your own risk.
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A nice butterfly
#343838: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:41:19 AM

Good. Drag him out kicking and screaming, humiliate him in front of the whole world.

This.

While it won't make up for anything he's ever done, there's a bit of schadenfreude and amusement to be derived from Trump kicking and screaming as he's dragged out of the white house.

Think of the memes.

Edited by Aszur on Dec 17th 2020 at 8:41:26 AM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#343839: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:44:48 AM

@Titan Jump Unlikely. The Secret Service would probably not let anyone close enough to interfere. Admittedly, I can see Trump's cultists trying something, but it's worth noting that any fight between them and The Secret Service would be a Curb-Stomp Battle.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#343840: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:45:56 AM

Trump seems to be Believing Their Own Lies at this point.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#343841: Dec 17th 2020 at 6:53:25 AM

[up][up] They don't need to get up-close and personal with the Secret Service...

Remember, this is a group of lunatics that got guns available to them (far too easily, sadly).

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#343843: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:00:03 AM

An interesting insight into the mindset of extreme conservatives:

The GOP is always looking for a fight:

"There has long been a widely held belief on the right that the problem with Republican politics is that it is too nice, that Democrats and their lefty allies play hardball while conservatives stick to outdated forms of decorum. For such believers, Trump is a welcome relief from the "surrender caucus," also sometimes sneeringly known as "Conservatism Inc."

...This assessment will come as a surprise to anybody who remembers (for example) when conservatives pushed the false theory that the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered, or when leading Republicans sidestepped "birther" rumors about then-President Barack Obama, or when Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc Connell (R-Ky.) blocked Obama's appointment of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court, or anything about the careers of operatives like Lee Atwater, Roger Stone, and Karl Rove.

Indeed, if American politics is a knife fight, many observers would say Republicans have more than held their own in recent decades. And yet, for the Trumpier precincts of the right, that's not enough.

...And yet, Mc Connell has belatedly acknowledged that Biden has won the presidential election, which infuriated Trump. "Republican Party must finally learn to fight!" the president tweeted on Tuesday. Mc Connell has also occasionally cut deals with Democrats, or let the Dem-controlled House fight directly with Trump while standing to the side, which means astounding headlines like "Mitch Mc Connell's Complicity with Democrats" and "Mitch Mc Connell's Lame-Duck Sellout" are a mainstay at Trumpist websites like American Greatness.

...The big problem with the right's "always fight harder" mentality is that it is anti-democratic, reducing politics purely to the exercise of your own side's will, instead of acknowledging that other factions will sometimes win elections for lots of other reasons — a bad economy, an unexpected pandemic, or a platform that simply appeals to more voters. It also exerts negative pressure on politics, which should be about getting things done for all Americans. Instead, the fight becomes the most important thing, the only thing, with participants judged primarily on their ability to "own the libs" or "have all the right enemies" instead of their capacity to do anything useful."

Explains a few things. I note that in other news, Republican Senators are planning to stage a debate on the election when the reconvene in January. Mc Connell has asked them not to, but he's getting a lot of pushback.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#343844: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:00:13 AM

@Titan Jump By "close" I mean "within the range of a sniper rifle".

Leviticus 19:34
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#343845: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:03:48 AM

Here is Trevor's entire interview with Obama for those interested:

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#343846: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:09:51 AM

not available in my country

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
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#343847: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:14:19 AM

The smart money is on him leaving the country (to Russia maybe?) to escape the reach of the New York courts which should be after him the moment he loses the title of President. I dunno if Trump belongs in the same sentence as "smart" though.

Trump could never sneak out of the country.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#343848: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:16:47 AM

Really? I thought this show was available internationally.

Meanwhile, Trump has eased rules on... showerheads. Specifically, on limitations of water flow.

Wow, guess he really was serious about that after all.

And in even funnier news, Trump's neighbours at Mar-a-Lago are petitioning Palm Beach to prevent Trump from settling down there, because they don't want him around all day.

Edited by Redmess on Dec 17th 2020 at 4:19:18 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#343849: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:21:36 AM

And, presumably, the perennial secret service entourage. Especially as Trump got a tax break for not using the damn place as a residence so they wouldn't be subject to his presence.

Edited by RainehDaze on Dec 17th 2020 at 3:21:58 PM

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