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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
People shouldn't be celebrating the SC solely for this decision on T*** election fraud cases. It is still a 6-3 GOP court, and with Karen on the court it is more likely that there will be "Dred Scott" decisions made unless Dems win the run-offs and there might be a chance of expanding the court.
"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - DawnIt's more the court is seen as a strongly apolitical arbitration body that is not beholden to any one, or part of any party.
The fact that they can lean one way or another just.... isn't a thing most people think is possible.
It's why court packing is so toxic of an idea to the voters, its seen as taking an innocent party and holding them hostage for not falling in line, it isn't liberals vs conservative... republicans vs democrats... its democrats bullying people that don't have a side into submitting to them.
This idea couldn't be more wrong, but its what we are up against.
Edited by Imca on Dec 16th 2020 at 5:09:41 AM
XKCD made a handy election map: https://m.xkcd.com/2399/
The hovertext gives a good description of why we shouldn’t think in terms of “red” and “blue” states.
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Oh my gosh. I did not know that. Thanks for pointing that out.
Now that you think about it, a lot of people apparently did not care that Karen Barrett was gonna be on the court. I recall seeing a YouTube video of Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update and they juxtaposed the title of the video as Karen's confirmation with a Halloween robot.
A HALLOWEEN. ROBOT.
It just shows that even though people may think of it as a big deal in the short term, they eventually will forget about it afterwards. Which is not what we want.
"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - DawnMcConnell is cynical but not stupid. He and many other Republican leaders know full well how serious COVID-19 is but are putting on a big show for Trump and the MAGA crowd, because they depend on those people to get elected.
Today, though, they have to start thinking about a future without Trump as President and part of that calculus is that they need their constituents to be alive to vote for them.
I'd feel some sympathy for their quandary, but it's one of their own making and the outcome is evil incarnate, so no.
Edited by Fighteer on Dec 16th 2020 at 7:20:09 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Porting the discussion over from California Matters...
So my state's governor has had his star dimmed quite a bit. The French Laundry scandal - where he flouted his own state's COVID rules to have a rich people only party - has really caught on. And he's not the only one who did something like that.
The state Republican Party seems to be moving on this. Which is bad news but I am pretty interested in who they seem to be moving to support, in terms of the message his selection might send;
One Kevin Faulconer, mayor of San Diego who took over after the disgusting Bob Filner scandal (Filner was the man John Oliver invented the Eww-o-meter for). Regrettable minimum wage decisions aside, going by his Wikipedia page, the man is more or less where the GOP on the national level should be heading instead of down the far right wing rabbit hole to Qanon fantasy land - he's pro-choice, pro-immigrant, pro-LGBT rights, and has been apparently very good about the homeless situation.
If they want to be competitive in the America that exists rather than the America of the idealized 1950s, I'd think Kevin Faulconer should be where they go.
...Of course this assumes he ends up the nominee rather than getting eaten alive by some rabid Tea Party lunatic.
Edited by NickTheSwing on Dec 16th 2020 at 4:28:27 AM
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A RINO being given quite a lot of support. Considering this is the same California GOP that entertained several absurdities such as Sean Feucht and his cult, as well as that crazy lady from last election...
Pattern recognition has never been a Republican strongsuit, but maybe the recent defeats have managed to awaken some of it in them. "Going further and further right isn't working, let's try this guy."
There's a moral here about how any political party that has long-term, unchallenged control over a jurisdiction slides into complacency and self-gratification, which is why we need a vital two-party system, not a party of governance and a party of lunacy.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Newsome used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle
, which does make me question his judgement.
Although in the words of Jaime Lannister, "You don't choose whom you love."
I heard about that - and I kind of wonder now. Considering how Newsom acts and how Don Jr. acts, I think Kimberly's "type" must be smug rich guys.
I agree with Fighteer on both counts. A party ruling this long sliding into self-gratification and laziness kind of fits with what I've seen so far, and this kind of challenge might hit the CA Dems into some self reflection and improvement.
I am kind of intrigued by the avenues Faulconer is taking when campaigning.
True, but then the question becomes what a reasonable conservative party would look like. Because we can't really get around the fact that a large part of any country will be conservative, and so there will always be a demand for conservative parties.
And there are certainly possibilities that progressive parties could live with. We have our own VVD, which I may not like politically, but I'm fairly confident will not run our country into the ground. Well, not too much, I hope.
Hope shines brightest in the darkest times

Yes, but the thing is that not everyone is as aware of the rulings of the SC. Remember we are somewhat biased on the informedness front. Most people will have an oversimplified view of what the SC is and does.
As for Mitch supporting vaccinations, is that really so unbelievable? I'm sure plenty of Republicans support vaccination, just as Democrats do. Anti-vaxxers are a minority on both sides. And yes, bad people occasionally believe in good things too.
Hope shines brightest in the darkest times