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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#343751: Dec 16th 2020 at 1:46:16 PM

Oh, the rider didn't make it? Cool, I was wondering.

Edited by Perseus on Dec 16th 2020 at 8:46:37 PM

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#343752: Dec 16th 2020 at 1:50:23 PM

Yeah the house version (which lacked the rider) got passed in the senate by a voice vote and signed by Trump.

Slight problem, the house version only funded the federal government for a week, so we need either a budget or another CR before midnight Friday.

Anyone want to take bets on if Trump is petty enough to veto the budget and cause a shutdown because he’s angry about the Electoral College voting?

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#343753: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:00:20 PM

I think it's more a case of believing that since the SC leans Republican now, they will automatically rule in Trump's favour. Given how people talk about the SC, I can't entirely blame people for thinking so.

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#343754: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:05:49 PM

I don't doubt that these Magabeavers want someone like Justice Richard Spencer or Justice David Duke.

They want someone so extreme that it makes Amy Covfefe Bidoof look moderate in comparison.

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#343755: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:12:58 PM

It isn't even something that's exclusive to one side of the aisle. There was a lot of worrying (in fairness, not unreasonably so) that the results in key states would be close enough that the SC would find a way to fudge things in Trump's favor, but that just didn't end up being the case.

The moment that it became obvious these scenarios would never play out is when the republicans like Romney, Mitt, etc started trying to distance themselves from Trump as the results came trickling in Biden's favor.

Because the thing is, the SC may be composed of sharp partisans but they are not beholden to Trump. They aren't beholden to anyone really, but if they do care about what someone else wants, it's much more likely to be what Mc Connell and other establishment republicans want, and not Trump. And if I had to guess, I think on at least some level Mc Connell and others in the party know that they don't really need to do as anything as overtly antidemocratic as trying to install a dictatorship for a guy who clearly lost the election, when playing the long game (mostly obstructionism) and relying on more subtle means like gerrymandering/voter suppression/etc will suffice and are already working in their favor.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 16th 2020 at 7:14:01 AM

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#343756: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:17:00 PM

Speaking of Mitch the Bitch, Dems should put everything into their hands to counter the GOP agenda. T*** is the first boss that has been defeated, and now the next one is Mitch and his goons.

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#343757: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:17:22 PM

Mitch actually spoke in favor of vaccinations on Twitter today. I was quite pleasently surprised.

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#343758: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:20:25 PM

Mitch isn't stupid. He's just amoral and terrible.

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#343759: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:23:19 PM

[up] And Cthulhu hides somewhere in his home.

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#343760: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:24:49 PM

Mitch has polio as a kid, I imagine that leaves a person with a strong support for vaccination.

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#343761: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:26:18 PM

One of my most beloved teachers had polio as a kid, so that rules out the polio vaccine as being the source that makes people irreprehensibly evil

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#343762: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:26:54 PM

[up][up] As long as it's him getting vaccinated.

FDR got polio in his life, which left him wheelchair-bound IIRC. I'm pretty sure Mitch compares himself to FDR because they both had polio. There's always something about Mitch that always pisses me off.

Edited by clemont107 on Dec 16th 2020 at 5:31:49 AM

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#343763: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:30:41 PM

Nah, it's not so unsophisticated. Evil Turtle is merely practicing Pragmatic Villainy, playing the "reasonable Republican" role to bamboozle you. He's been doing that frequently over the last decades. There is nothing to gain for him by becoming an antivaxxer and he's no ideologue.

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#343764: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:31:08 PM

[up]X3 Mitch didn’t get the vaccine, he had to build immunity to polio the old fashioned way, by suffering through the disease.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 16th 2020 at 10:31:24 AM

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#343765: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:32:42 PM

I mean, it says a lot about Trump when Mitch actually comes off as reasonable, next to him.

And like I said, the MAGA-Cult already wants his head on a spike for it. They actually call him a RINO. That's how far gone these people are.

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#343766: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:34:25 PM

[up]x2I bet that to cope with the polio he ate lots of fried chicken. He's probably a big fan of KFC.

[up] We shouldn't be soft on Mitch either. He's like the next boss of the video game we have to beat. Dems need to counter Mitch, Lindsey and the rest of the GOP to ensure they don't get their dream-world of right-wing authoritarianism. They are bad people and the lives of millions of people must not be dictated by their actions.

I really wonder if Mitch is really gonna pull a Karma Houdini for everything he has done.

Edited by clemont107 on Dec 16th 2020 at 5:40:21 AM

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#343767: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:50:54 PM

It looks like Donald might not be able to move to Mar-A-Lago after all.

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#343768: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:52:28 PM

I think he has to rereclassify it as a residence instead of a business. Which would be costly...

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Imca (Veteran)
#343769: Dec 16th 2020 at 2:58:04 PM

Given how people talk about the SC, I can't entirely blame people for thinking so.

You can and should since they can just look at the history of the court to see that a Conservative leaning court doesn't always make conservative rulings, court was conservative when it aproved gay marriage, conservative when it approved interracial marriage (which wouldn't be a popular ruling for DECADES, it wasn't until the last one that support for interracial marriage outweighed support against it), and conservitive when it ruled that LGBT is covered under employment protections.

Would having a court in our favor be better? Fucking yes it would, this part is not up for debate....

But a conservative court isn't Armageddon either, and unlike a conservitive congress can be played around if you know what your doing, and take the time to do it.

The fact that people keep talking about it like its this insurmountable wall that is worth throwing congress over is stupid, and ignores the history of the court.

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#343770: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:01:41 PM

The fact that the court doesn't owe anyone anything and impeaching them would just bring a lot of problems, they are pretty free to do what they want. Or what they are supposed to do, depending on moods.

Edited by Blueace on Dec 16th 2020 at 8:02:08 AM

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#343771: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:02:03 PM

The fact that the MAGA mooks are crying out over the SC not being reactionary enough just disgusts me though. If it were up to them they would get rid of the remaining liberal or centrist judges on the court and entirely staff them with idealogues like Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon and other members of the Alt-Right.

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#343772: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:02:20 PM

And yes, Mitch will come out unscathed out of all this. I would be willing to bet that so would Trump.

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#343773: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:06:50 PM

[up]I really hope that Ossoff and Warnock win the runoffs in Georgia so that Mitch could look and face some consequences for his actions. Of course it may or may not happen. Reality used to have a liberal bias until T*** appeared out of nowhere and took control of it.

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Imca (Veteran)
#343774: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:09:52 PM

Reality still has a liberal bias.

People just really want to belive it doesn't... and are willing to be quite deluded to not have to admit it.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#343775: Dec 16th 2020 at 3:10:41 PM

What ultimately protected the election from the SC was that the margin of victory was great enough that no reasonable person could dispute it. Hundreds of thousands of votes across half a dozen states can't be balked at.

If Biden had only won by a few thousand votes, or it had come to like a few hundred in two states, we might very well have had court intervention.


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