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#342776: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:08:32 AM

At this point, being a nuisance to Biden seems like their only goal, really.

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#342777: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:13:04 AM

Yeah, but why? I thought the FBI leaned towards the Democrats, if anything. They went after Trump too, after all.

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#342778: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:15:34 AM

Well a lot of the FBI's best people were fired for not being criminals.

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#342779: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:17:29 AM

We found out in 2016 that the FBI harbors a vocal cadre of hard-right folks who buy into all the "Democrats are evil" conspiracy theories.

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#342780: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:37:17 AM

[up]And whom treat Mr. Trump as their own God-Emperor and Invincible Hero.

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#342781: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:41:31 AM

We're talking about the same FBI that did the Mueller investigation, right?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#342782: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:44:08 AM

Hence "cadre" and not "entire FBI", I assume.

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#342783: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:45:11 AM

It’s a big organisation with lots of different people. You’ve got everything from the people on the initial Russia investigation through Muller and Comey all the way to the people who worked with Rudi to try and smear Hillary.

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#342784: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:45:53 AM

The FBI isn't a monolith. Some are pro-Trump, some are anti-Trump, and some genuinely just work there. Like every other group of people.

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#342785: Dec 10th 2020 at 6:49:51 AM

[up]It's like people working at the White House. You've got random interns who are just trying to do their job regardless of political affiliation, and then you've got people like Stephen Miller.

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#342786: Dec 10th 2020 at 7:01:46 AM

This investigation predates Trump, though. And it seems to be something worthy of investigation, at least, as was the Clinton emails thing.

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#342787: Dec 10th 2020 at 7:12:30 AM

No, it predates Barr. The investigation started in 2018.

Last time I checked, Trump was POTUS in 2018.

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#342788: Dec 10th 2020 at 7:18:14 AM

Oh sorry, you're right.

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#342789: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:30:30 AM

Bold of you guys to assume that the FBI are noble people who would ever favor the democrats.

They're more than happy to snuff out left wing groups and turn a blind eye to radical right wing groups.

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#342790: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:34:05 AM

[up]Like when Comey single-handedly cost Clinton the election with the whole email server debacle. There may be still some good people left in the FBI but that number is getting smaller and smaller with each year.

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#342791: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:36:55 AM

Comey was also fired by Trump for not being willing to sweep his crimes under the rug and enabling the Mueller Investigation to occur.

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#342792: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:42:40 AM

Comey is one of those people where folks assume they did the right thing just because both sides are angry at them.

He broke the law and helped Trump win the election due to pressure from Rudi, he then refused to break the law further and got fired for it.

If you stab someone on behalf of your friend and then get yelled at by both the person you stabbed and your friend (who wanted you to stab them more), you’re not a neutral party who did the right thing.

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#342793: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:43:18 AM

CNN broke that Biden has tapped Susan Rice to lead the Domestic Policy Council. Said position does not require Senate confirmation.

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#342794: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:46:24 AM

[up][up] Didn't he also withhold testimony from the impeachment hearings in order to sell more copies of his book when it was published? Or am I mixing up my Trump "defectors" here?

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#342795: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:46:49 AM

I can hear Republicans screaming"BENGHAZI!1!" from here.

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#342796: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:47:21 AM

With the caveat that this is a simplification, as I understand things, Comey had a lot of pressure from lower level FBI agents, especially a New York branch, to go after Clinton, because they were really right wing and bought into various conspiracy theories, particularly in connection with the Clinton Cash movie.

In addition, although he probably would not admit it, I also get the impression that as a Republican, Comey was pretty on board with the idea of generating bad publicity towards Clinton, especially because he assumed, like most people, that she would still get elected (and needless to say, he would not have any issues with that publicity hampering her presidency).

That doesn't mean that Comey doesn't have some scruples, which are obviously evident in his opposition to despotic actions by Trump, but his role in investigating Clinton was pretty much a case of bad outcome and bad intent.

So, with that in mind, it also seems plausible to me that the Hunter Biden stuff is a repeat of the same tendencies in the FBI.

Edited by Hodor2 on Dec 10th 2020 at 10:48:09 AM

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#342797: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:47:40 AM

[up][up][up] No, that was Bolton.

Edited by Redmess on Dec 10th 2020 at 5:48:06 PM

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#342798: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:48:36 AM

[up][up][up][up] No, that was... There's been so many of them I've genuinely forgotten who it was.

[up] Ah, there we go. Thanks.

Edited by Parable on Dec 10th 2020 at 8:49:03 AM

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#342799: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:50:46 AM

[up][up] I stand corrected then, thanks.

[up] And yeah, this administration has had so many resignations and "resignations" that it does get a little hard to keep them all straight

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#342800: Dec 10th 2020 at 8:50:47 AM

The Republicans had spent thirty years smearing the Clintons by the time the 2016 election rolled around. It should not be understated just how many people had come to believe there had to be some sort of fire underneath the huge wafts of smoke, year after year after year, that conservative propagandists were fanning out. Some people had spent literally their entire adult lives hearing the words "Clinton Crime Family" repeated ad nauseum.

It's not really surprising that some people within the FBI were totally convinced by it, especially since the profession of law enforcement itself tends to skew conservative.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 10th 2020 at 8:51:36 AM

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