TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

The General US Politics Thread

Go To

Nov 2023 Mod notice:


There may be other, more specific, threads about some aspects of US politics, but this one tends to act as a hub for all sorts of related news and information, so it's usually one of the busiest OTC threads.

If you're new to OTC, it's worth reading the Introduction to On-Topic Conversations and the On-Topic Conversations debate guidelines before posting here.

Rumor-based, fear-mongering and/or inflammatory statements that damage the quality of the thread will be thumped. Off-topic posts will also be thumped. Repeat offenders may be suspended.

If time spent moderating this thread remains a distraction from moderation of the wiki itself, the thread will need to be locked. We want to avoid that, so please follow the forum rules when posting here.


In line with the general forum rules, 'gravedancing' is prohibited here. If you're celebrating someone's death or hoping that they die, your post will get thumped. This rule applies regardless of what the person you're discussing has said or done.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#342726: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:32:34 PM

Yeah, but fucking with the Internet affects us now and directly. You bet we're going to be raising the war banner about it.

Edited by Ramidel on Dec 9th 2020 at 4:32:44 AM

Imca (Veteran)
#342727: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:38:28 PM

Wait, so the whole scene in Avengers: Age of Ultron where the heroes visit a server hub which the whole internet goes through apparently has some basis in reality?

Sadly, yes.

clemont107 Mega Togekiss?! from Land of Missed Opportunities (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Mega Togekiss?!
#342729: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:44:04 PM

[up]Finally a silver lining today: Texas is not as right-wing as it used to be if there aren't enough GOP state senators there.

"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - Dawn
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#342730: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:44:31 PM

"We lost, change the rules, quick!"

Republican projection again, too.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#342731: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:54:41 PM

It’s happened before, North Carolina got its democracy rating downgraded for pulling such shit.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#342732: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:58:55 PM

Note that this is the second time they've done this. Prior to 2015 there were 21 votes required.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#342733: Dec 9th 2020 at 6:27:56 PM

Wisconsin, too - after Governor Scott Walker lost in 2018, they stripped a bunch of powers from the incoming Democratic governor. And in Georgia, the state leg. is talking about making it harder to vote again.


Anchorage Daily News:

Republican State Rep. Louise Stutes will rejoin the Democrat + Independent coalition in the Alaska State House, meaning the chamber is currently split exactly in half, 20-20. There are two other Reps., currently leaning toward sticking with Republicans, who will decide control.


EDIT:

Roll Call: EPA move creates hurdles for future air, climate rules

The EPA announced final rule changes Wednesday that would make it harder for the incoming Biden administration to make new rules to protect the environment and public health by limiting the consideration of their costs and benefits.

If it is finalized, the rule - the final version of which has not yet been published in the Federal Register - will steer the agency away from considering the broader public benefits of new regulations, such as the value of fewer asthma attacks and respiratory ailments.


The incoming Biden administration could reverse the rule once in office, but that process would take months or more and require a public comment period.

Proposed in June, the rule, which met swift condemnation from environmental organizations, is the latest in a string of environmental regulations that favor industry the Trump administration is rushing to finalize.

Edited by nova92 on Dec 9th 2020 at 6:47:43 AM

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#342734: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:07:59 PM

[up] It's things like this that make me view people who say corporations only destroy the environment out of ignorance as either liars or incredibly naive.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#342735: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:11:18 PM

They destroy the environment because it's cheaper than not doing so and therefore the potential benefit of destroying regulators is greater profits, well worth the lobbying cost. Sadly, the entire principle of limited liability means that we can't punish stockholders as a way to discourage profit-seeking at the cost of human life and quality of said life.

Of course then you get some companies that make their niche being environmentally friendly and making profit that way.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#342736: Dec 9th 2020 at 8:47:56 PM

It's crazy how corporations are willing to spend millions of dollars just to save money.

i'm tired, my friend
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#342737: Dec 9th 2020 at 8:50:50 PM

[up] "Waste"

It is "waste millions".

If they "spent" money, then it would mean that they did something useful with them.

Edited by TitanJump on Dec 9th 2020 at 5:51:07 PM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#342738: Dec 9th 2020 at 8:52:25 PM

If they get what they want in the end, then it's spent.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#342739: Dec 9th 2020 at 8:53:49 PM

My point stands. They're throwing away millions in an attempt to avoid losing money, but they're too up their own ass to see the irony.

i'm tired, my friend
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#342740: Dec 9th 2020 at 8:57:53 PM

The cost of buttering up a few politicians is basically nothing next to the costs of being responsible.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#342741: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:01:50 PM

They don't see it as spending, they see it as investing.

And it's way easier to make shareholders follow your lead if you call bribing investing and being responsible wasting.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#342742: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:29:51 PM

Jane Meyer, a journalist with excellent credentials just reported on a major story regarding Dianne Feinstein appearing to be suffering from severe cognitive decline.

Which meant the ranking Democrat of the judiciary committee was handling the Barrett hearings while being in no shape to and may have screwed over Democrats like Sara Gideon and Cal Cunningham.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342743: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:59:21 PM

Federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings in China.

Sounds like there was more to Hunter Biden after all. That's rather unfortunate news. This story could have cost Biden the election, and now it will serve to stoke feelings of resentment against Biden.

Edited by Redmess on Dec 9th 2020 at 8:02:31 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#342744: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:03:21 PM

And now Kushner is being investigated too to see if he used his White House job to get a billion-dollar bailout for his company from Middle Eastern countries: https://twitter.com/funder/status/1336746258518708224

Edited by CookingCat on Dec 9th 2020 at 11:03:38 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#342745: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:04:35 PM

[up][up]Nah, it's simply a continuation of the investigation that started earlier in 2018. It's going into a new phase now that the election is over. The article also notes that Joe Biden himself isn't implicated, though the GOP will likely use it to complicate the AG nomination.

Edited by M84 on Dec 10th 2020 at 3:06:01 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342746: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:04:56 PM

What's more, that "bogus" laptop story may have more to it after all, even though Giuliani's version of the story was really suspect.

[up] Not legally implicated, no, but it will likely stick to him politically.

Edited by Redmess on Dec 9th 2020 at 8:06:00 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#342747: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:06:56 PM

Also, CNN literally made a typo in that link.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#342748: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:07:35 PM

[up][up]The article even notes that it's unclear whether said laptop is even relevant.

The main takeaway is that the investigation that started in 2018 is still ongoing, and that this will be a test of whether Joe Biden's administration's Justice Department will be able to remain impartial.

Edited by M84 on Dec 10th 2020 at 3:11:16 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342749: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:11:32 PM

A typo hardly invalidates the story. That's really clutching at straws to dismiss the news.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#342750: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:12:31 PM

[up]Nobody said it invalidated it...?

It's just something kind of silly.

Disgusted, but not surprised

Total posts: 417,856
Top