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Lazlo74 from A tropical hell-hole Since: May, 2018
#342601: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:13:19 AM

The Trumpanzees aren't taking the SCOTUS rejection very well. Many of them are accusing Trump's own appointed judges, the entire American legal system as well as half Republican establishment who aren't acting like sore losers of being compromised by the deep state.

When do you think they'll accuse Trump himself of being part of the deep state? Because at this point, I'm confused whether Trump is owning himself to own the libs, or is owning the hardline Republican voter base to own the libs.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#342602: Dec 9th 2020 at 5:20:16 AM

I think you would need a more solid case to impeach Kavanaugh than what we know publicly now. It would at least require a thorough investigation, and I'm not sure who would be in a position to start one.

In other news, Trump is holding a vaccine summit... but no one producing vaccines will come to it.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342603: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:10:10 AM

Legal Eagle discusses pardon powers, and how broad and powerful these pardons are.

  • The president can give out mass pardons (and this has happened before).
  • The president can pardon someone before prosecution has happened.
  • The president cannot accept bribes for a pardon, that at least is illegal.
  • The president can pardon family members, and there is some precedent.
  • The president can pardon his co-conspirators, and this has happened before (Iran Contra, under Bill Barr, no less).
  • Resolving all these over-broad powers of the pardon would require a constitutional amendment.
  • It is not entirely clear how much power Congress has to overturn pardons, even if the will is there.
  • Trump can basically step down at the literal last minute of his presidency and have Mike Pence pardon him.
  • The president can't pardon himself, and the SC can overturn such a pardon. But they could also allow a self-pardon to stand by offering impeachment as the proper remedy. So maybe he can, after all. It is definitely uncharted territory.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#342604: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:37:51 AM

OP ability, please nerf

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
clemont107 Mega Togekiss?! from Land of Missed Opportunities (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Mega Togekiss?!
#342605: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:46:02 AM

[up][up]Maybe he could pardon himself for his many cases of adultery!

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#342606: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:49:09 AM

How Oath Keepers Are Quietly Infiltrating Local Government and these officials do then things like calling for violence against politicians in other states.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#342607: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:35:37 AM

Politico: AOC, Rice face off for powerful committee post

Key passages:

A pair of high-profile New Yorkers are jockeying for a prized slot on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, a competition that could have long-lasting reverberations in the Democratic Caucus and for influential states.

Energy and Commerce has the widest range of jurisdiction of any House panel, giving its members outsize influence on Congress' most significant legislation. The committee presides over most health policy issues, including drug pricing; national energy policy from nuclear waste to renewable energy; regulation of clean air and safe drinking water; the communications industry; motor vehicle safety and more.

Both Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Kathleen Rice are privately angling for one of the few open seats on one of the House's most powerful committees. But other members of the New York delegation are so far refusing to publicly wade into the battle, meaning the state could get shut out of the slot being vacated by outgoing Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) altogether.

Senior Democrats insist they are still far away from discussing potential slates for exclusive committees, with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Minority Leader Kevin Mc Carthy (R-Calif.) continuing to negotiate the ratios for each panel. But that hasn't stopped Rice and Ocasio-Cortez from pushing for a spot on the Energy panel now, with both touting the support of the New York delegation, circulating separate letters with their home state's endorsement.

So far, most Democrats have declined to weigh in on the race publicly for fear of drawing the ire of either Ocasio-Cortez or Rice. Some members privately worry about giving a more prominent platform to Ocasio-Cortez's environmental plank - including her controversial "Green New Deal" - but don't want to invite scrutiny from the New York Democrat and her nearly 11 million Twitter followers or potentially even draw a primary challenge.

The Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, which oversees all committee assignments, faces a similar conundrum when it comes to Texas, where two members from the delegation - Lizzie Fletcher and Sylvia Garcia - are vying for a spot on the Energy and Commerce panel, also likely canceling out the state's chances of landing a seat.

Some senior Democrats on the committee privately would prefer that Steering does not offer the seat to Ocasio-Cortez, whose aggressive style of politics could complicate bipartisan work during the Biden era.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#342608: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:39:02 AM

Is bipartisan work even possible now?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#342609: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:42:27 AM

Cowardly democrats refuse to acknowledge that bipartisan work is dead in the water.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#342610: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:44:40 AM

Alternatively, a non-radical white man in White House offers a better chance than a black man and an orange buffoon. Not a big one, though.

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#342611: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:46:31 AM

The Republicans having basically declared that they refuse to acknowledge Biden as president makes their stance on bipartisanship clear.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
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Surrounded by weirdoes
#342613: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:51:03 AM

It's either one hell of an understatement or overly optimistic. Unless the way is to literally strongarm the GOP into cooperating.

Edited by Blueace on Dec 9th 2020 at 2:51:40 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#342614: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:52:23 AM

So the entire GOP has entered a strike, refusing to do their jobs out of pettiness, and now holding america hostage until they have their way through and spitting on the will of the people?

How on earth is there not a clause in the constitution that would allow "incompetent, fascistic, personnel" to be fired on the spot and replaced with people who are willing to do the jobs instead?

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#342615: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:53:26 AM

That's going to be the hard pill for moderates to swallow for the next four years: Biden won the primary on the expectation that his Presidency would be a return to "normalcy". But what most moderates think of when they think of political normalcy didn't actually exist.

Clinton v. Trump 2016 is remembered as the moment when American politics went batshit, but it's not. American politics have been batshit for decades. Clinton v. Trump 2016 is just the moment when the Millennial generation sat up and noticed.

We're not going to have a "return to normalcy", where both parties reach across the aisles and work together as friends and colleagues to better the country. That's not a thing. That has never been a thing, at least not in our generation's lifetime. We need fighters like AOC in Washington because the idea of bipartisanship has always been an illusion.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 9th 2020 at 9:55:29 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#342616: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:53:44 AM

Let them fight.

And I mean that in a positive way. Let them make their cases to the rest of the New York delegates and the caucus as a whole. Not every power move between Democrats is a prelude to civil war.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#342617: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:54:13 AM

Youtube will remove any video disputing the election results.

Our Community Guidelines prohibit spam, scams, or other manipulated media, coordinated influence operations, and any content that seeks to incite violence. Since September, we've terminated over 8000 channels and thousands of harmful and misleading elections-related videos for violating our existing policies. Over 77% of those removed videos were taken down before they had 100 views.

We also work to make sure that the line between what is removed and what is allowed is drawn in the right place. Our policies prohibit misleading viewers about where and how to vote. We also disallow content alleging widespread fraud or errors changed the outcome of a historical U.S. Presidential election. However in some cases, that has meant allowing controversial views on the outcome or process of counting votes of a current election as election officials have worked to finalize counts.

Yesterday was the safe harbor deadline for the U.S. Presidential election and enough states have certified their election results to determine a President-elect. Given that, we will start removing any piece of content uploaded today (or anytime after) that misleads people by alleging that widespread fraud or errors changed the outcome of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election, in line with our approach towards historical U.S. Presidential elections. For example, we will remove videos claiming that a Presidential candidate won the election due to widespread software glitches or counting errors. We will begin enforcing this policy today, and will ramp up in the weeks to come. As always, news coverage and commentary on these issues can remain on our site if there’s sufficient education, documentary, scientific or artistic context.

Good.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#342618: Dec 9th 2020 at 9:57:47 AM

How on earth is there not a clause in the constitution that would allow "incompetent, fascistic, personnel" to be fired on the spot and replaced with people who are willing to do the jobs instead?

Because the people who voted for them in the first place view their job as "Obstruct Biden."

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#342619: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:04:53 AM

So the entire GOP has entered a strike, refusing to do their jobs out of pettiness, and now holding america hostage until they have their way through and spitting on the will of the people?
Is this in reference to their general behavior or has something specific happened?

Lazlo74 from A tropical hell-hole Since: May, 2018
#342620: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:27:38 AM

[up][up]Glad You Tube decided to crack down on the nutters. Whether it's grifters exploiting the orange worshippers' delusions or genuine conspiracy nuts, it's sickening to see so many self proclaimed patriots or 'fair and unbiased news outlets' still try to peddle more misinformation this far into the post-election period and undermine faith in America's political system.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#342621: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:45:35 AM

And Trump is still ranting on Twitter as if his victory is near. Will this guy ever get a clue?

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#342622: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:46:50 AM

[up] No.

Because that would mean that he actually had two brain cells that worked together to do so.

Edited by TitanJump on Dec 9th 2020 at 7:47:15 PM

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#342623: Dec 9th 2020 at 10:58:00 AM

[up][up][up]Man, people who call themselves 'patriots' or 'fair and unbiased news sources' don't tend to be either of those things. It's similar how you can't truthfully call yourself humble- and you feel the need to call attention to it, it's probably not accurate.

Calling yourself either of those things would be a red flag for me right out of the gate.

BZL8 Yes. from Somewhere Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Yes.
#342624: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:04:44 AM

[up][up][up] What did you expect from someone whose career basically amounts to being a glory hound Snake Oil Salesman?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#342625: Dec 9th 2020 at 11:05:37 AM

And Trump is still ranting on Twitter as if his victory is near. Will this guy ever get a clue?

Worth noting that apparently if you acknowledge Biden won the election then he stops talking to you. He actively avoids the clues.


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