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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
A lot of incels don't care because they resent that women have rights in the fitst place. Don't underestimate people who will just say, "Sexual slavery is okay because I'm a man and don't care about what other people [let alone women] want."
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I think that Dems also need to make their key players, including Obama, Biden, Harris and AOC meme-able. From what I've seen, the key reason why Mister T. was so "popular" was because he was easy to make a meme out of (how the hell anyone would find him funny at all confounds me, his insults are never funny for a sane person, and his face and facial expressions are so ugly (funnily enough, I can look more comfortably at Alec Baldwin's impersonation of Trump not just because Baldwin is much more funny than the real man but also because he is much more handsome as well.)). I think with memes involving Biden and other Dems I think they would get more recognition.
Edited by clemont107 on Dec 6th 2020 at 7:35:05 AM
"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - DawnOne, "making" people memeable sounds like a non-starter. Need I remind you how "Pokemon Go to the polls" worked out? Two, making memes of someone doesn't guarantee that said memes won't be made to deride them. To that point, three, people are already memeing Biden. They're not all positive.
i'm tired, my friendI'm not convinced about Obama's argument. Obama is an incredibly polished politician. No drama Obama. The Republicans had to invent a scandal to try and tar him, and the best they could do was the colour of his suit!
So to me, it makes sense that he's looking for the polished solution. It's just that politics doesn't work that way and if it did I think it would be alienating to the general public.
The problem with progressive politics such as policing reform and say the Green New Deal is that these things are being crafted in public. But the first draft is then being taken to be the final product. Now obviously the Republicans do so dishonestly to gain a political advantage but the media and others including democratic politicians need to get comfortable with the inherent ugliness that comes with making policy.
This is how the sausage gets made, sang the third VP of the United States. And an unmade sausage isn't very appealing. But if you know every ingredient that went into the sausage and saw the care and effort that went into stuffing it you'd be much more confident of its taste when it's served up on the plate.
Edited by singularityshot on Dec 6th 2020 at 5:20:53 AM
NPR: Trump Administration Rushes To Sell Oil Rights In Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
In a dramatic shift after nearly four decades of protections, a Republican-led Congress in 2017 approved legislation that opened up part of the refuge to oil development. It called for two lease sales in the coastal section of the Arctic refuge within seven years, with the first one to be held by the end of 2021.
But conservation groups are blasting the Trump administration's decision to push forward with the sale now, about two months before Inauguration Day, saying it's rushing the process "to open one of the nation's most iconic and sacred landscapes to oil drilling."
The Arctic refuge's coastal plain is about 1.6 million acres — an area roughly the size of Delaware that makes up about 8% of the vast refuge. It's a place where caribou migrate, polar bears den and migratory birds feed. It's also an area believed to hold billions of barrels of untapped oil.
New York Times: Barr considering stepping down before the end of the year.
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No surprise. Donnie hates animals as far as we know, he hates dogs especially. I bet he personally would want to make some animals extinct just for spite.
Hahaha. I doubt he would follow through given that he would want to continue furthering his Orange Sensei's agendas of ending the Democratic party.
Barr was loyal to Trump until Trump lost. At that moment he was a lost cause to Barr, and he knows the Democrat are out for metaphorical blood. People will be arrested, people will be indicted, people will be going to jail over the things they did the past few years, Barr included if he tries to pull anything. I'm pretty sure the people underneath Barr have already been waiting for this moment to get rid of him.
"In a move surprising absolutely no one"Realize that Republican loyalty is fickle. There is no such thing as genuine loyalty among Republicans. They're loyal to the hierarchy (and then, only when they view it as legitimate).
The only person in this entire ordeal that was ever loyal to Donald Trump personally was former attorney and fixer Michael Cohen, and even that only lasted until his willingness to take a bullet for Trump was actually put to the test. Everyone in Washington? Was loyal to The Republican President. They knew their place in the hierarchy and fell in line to enrich themselves, except when asked to endanger themselves.
Trump's fifteen minutes of political fame are rapidly approaching their conclusion. In about a month, Trump isn't going to be Top Dog of the Republican Hierarchy anymore. The Republicans in his administration are going to be looking for new jobs soon, the Republicans in Congress are going to move forward without him, and Trump himself will be consigned to the annals of presidential history.
So far as every Republican right now is concerned, Trump is of no further use. And, if anything, is proving to actively be a detriment to what really matters: winning the Georgia runoff. So why would anyone expect loyalty towards him now?
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Atlanta Journal-Constitution: At Georgia rally, Trump tells GOP to vote in 'rigged' election
Trump followed that line of reasoning, to a point. "Without these two, there's going to be nothing to stop (the Democrats). You have no idea how bad it will be," Trump said.
"This election was rigged, and we can't let it happen to two of the most respected people in Washington," Trump said. "Your governor could stop it easily if he knew what the hell he was doing."
Trump urged the crowd to vote in January, even though that election, he said, is likely to be corrupt, too.
From the rest of the article, it sounds like Trump was mostly repeating talking points he'd gotten from someone else - the rest of the speech focused on his grievances, especially against Gov. Kemp, and how the election was stolen.
Georgia Democratic State Sen. Elena Parent has received death threats after taking part in a hearing about the voter fraud claims pushed by Trump and his allies. Her home address and other personal information were also distributed online. AJC
Protesters, some of them armed, descended on Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's home after dark "to challenge President-elect Joe Biden's win in Michigan". They dispersed once police arrived. Detroit Free Press
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Edited by nova92 on Dec 6th 2020 at 8:09:52 AM
Michigan Democratic State Rep. Cynthia A. Johnson, who is Black, has received "voicemails saying she should be lynched" after being part of the Michigan House Oversight Committee hearing where Giuliani aired his claims of voter fraud. The trial was covered in an SNL skit and got national press, but has lead to Michigan state lawmakers, including some Republicans, to get death threats. Detroit Free Press
The Trump administration, up until its final days, continues to find new ways to hurt immigrants. Politico: Trump's New Citizenship Test Is Full of Conservative Bias—And Dotted With Mistakes
When the test was first released a few weeks ago, many critics focused on its needless difficulty and complexity. The previous iteration of the test, last revised in 2008, required applicants to answer six of 10 questions, drawn from a pool of only 100. Several new questions call for biographical details about Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and Dwight Eisenhower, while another asks for "the purpose of the 10th Amendment." Critics of the new test believe that it is intended to create an additional and unnecessary barrier to naturalization.
But perhaps the most significant feature of the test is its decidedly conservative political tilt, sometimes to the point of inaccuracy.
The article goes on to give multiple examples of bias and inaccuracy, including this one:
• Freedom of expression • Freedom of speech • Freedom of assembly • Freedom to petition the government • Freedom of religion • The right to bear arms
Notably missing from the UCSIS answer list are the rights to counsel, due process, equal protection, and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment or unreasonable search and seizure
Edited by nova92 on Dec 7th 2020 at 3:20:09 AM

I can answer this:
Incel often said that before a least woman who werent as atractive will setlte with a men like them and therefore everyone woul dbe happier, but today with feminism, globalism and other ism woman are getting their value so high that only chads will with them.
in their ideal system is what I call it incel only sexual socialism: Every good men will have their place and woman for them while sociaty teach them was is to be a real man.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"