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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#342176: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:16:55 AM

Altris wrote:
Some nonsense about "they were hiding suitcases of ballots underneath the tables and counted them after the observers left! That's why Biden won Georgia! There was a spike in the vote counts late at night!" fact check

I know trying to comprehend these conspiracies is an exercise in futility but, like, in this scenario why would Democrats need the suitcases to count votes after third-party observers left? Wouldn't forging a number with no supervision of been easier than manually counting the contents of a briefcase? And why do the votes being in a suitcase indicate those votes were fraudulent anyways, especially since the article notes they're normally bulked in a container?

Edited by NesClassic on Dec 4th 2020 at 9:18:48 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#342177: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:20:29 AM

They were hoping for Brief Case Gate I assume

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#342178: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:23:22 AM

Mysterious Monolith Update: Racists Destroy California Monolith, Proclaim Christ Superior to Space Aliens

It's actually a good thing they did, the monolith was just a way to enter a planet-destroying game show.

In all seriousness, destroying the Monolith (which I think is just an art project thing, not an alien artifact) is a shame. I hope the people involved end up going to jail for Destruction of Property.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#342180: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:46:09 AM

A new Georgia poll suggests that Republican lies about “voter fraud” are hurting the GOP

Ha, fucking called it.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#342181: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:50:11 AM

Is this the poll Nate Silver discusses here? Because if so it's a mirage, most likely.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#342182: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:58:08 AM

Still, the one poll that counts is in January, and they have been pretty wrong lately.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#342183: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:59:38 AM

The polls for Georgia were way more accurate compared to most others, but yeah, confidence in polling is pretty low at this point.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#342184: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:00:12 AM

[up][up]Have they? My understanding has been that, outside a few outliers like Florida 2020, the polls have been within their margins of error.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 4th 2020 at 10:00:20 AM

clemont107 Mega Togekiss?! from Land of Missed Opportunities (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Mega Togekiss?!
#342185: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:01:01 AM

Any sign that the GOP is being hurt in Georgia by this infighting is better than none.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#342186: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:01:07 AM

[up][up]The polls for the midwestern states were pretty off, as I recall. Biden still won, but by much slimmer margins than the aggregates would have suggested.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Dec 4th 2020 at 3:01:14 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#342187: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:02:46 AM

Georgia polls have been more accurate than other states' polls, we shouldn't conflate them.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 4th 2020 at 10:03:24 AM

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#342188: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:03:41 AM

[up]x4 From what I understand, 2016 and 2020 were off basically everywhere, but 2017-2019 were more or less right (minus Florida, Florida always seems to suck). It seems like Trump and Trumpeteers do something to screw up the polling whenever he and his folk are running. My guess is either they lie on the polls or don't answer the polls at all.

I guess we'll see if 2021 still counts as a Trumpeteer year or falls into the line of 2017-2019. Maybe without Trump (plus this Republican Civil War in Georgia) this poll is more true then false, but again we'll have to see.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Dec 4th 2020 at 1:04:16 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#342189: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:07:02 AM

Any sign that the GOP is being hurt in Georgia by this infighting is better than none.

Exactly.

And it's not like Trump's rhetoric hurting their turnout is some crazy idea, decreasing trust in democracy logically reduces the chance of people engaging with it. Which isn't the best in the long term but could very well benefit us now.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 4th 2020 at 10:07:17 AM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#342190: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:09:43 AM

Trump has lost and his Death Cult is in the middle of self-destructing with GOP right in the middle of it, about to scatter pieces of itself all across the country.

Unfortunately, the collateral damage from their self-detonation might be felt for decades to come...

Alycus Since: Apr, 2018
#342191: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:09:50 AM

Wonder if it will be more useful if polls also showed how many respondents did not answer.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#342192: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:13:32 AM

Hacks on Tap likes to say the only poll that matters is the poll where you are two points behind.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#342193: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:51:42 AM

When even your party is having enough of this bullshit.

Edited by AngelusNox on Dec 4th 2020 at 3:52:21 PM

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Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#342194: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:03:04 AM

Some Republicans, to make it seem like T**** hasn't lost as many election lawsuits, are pretending that only the lawsuits made personally by his team count, and not those made by Republicans who are allies with him.

Edited by Resileafs on Dec 4th 2020 at 2:03:20 PM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342195: Dec 4th 2020 at 12:37:45 PM

That spike seems to be real, though, does anyone know where that really came from?

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#342196: Dec 4th 2020 at 1:01:11 PM

[up]

Depending on State laws, that might have been when the mail-in ballots were allowed to start being counted, as at least a few States barred advance counting of absentee ballots.

[down]

Unfortunately, "centralization" makes conservatives break out in hives, at least when it's not them dictating it.

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 4th 2020 at 4:15:20 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#342197: Dec 4th 2020 at 1:07:33 PM

Ah, so a backlog of counts, then? That makes sense.

And I can see how this can confuse people who are not aware of the minutiae of state voting laws. Another reason a more centralized approach would help with transparency in the process.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#342198: Dec 4th 2020 at 3:04:32 PM

NPR: House passes MORE Act

Branded as the Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act, or MORE Act, the bill removes cannabis from the list of federally controlled substances and facilitates canceling low-level federal convictions and arrests related to marijuana.


It creates an excise tax on cannabis sales and directs the money to be targeted to communities adversely affected by the so-called war on drugs.

The bill specifically adds incentives for minority-owned businesses to help them enter the cannabis market, which has exploded in recent years given the relaxation in controls in some places within the United States.

5 Republicans voted for the bill and 6 Democrats against - those Democrats were Chris Pappas (NH-1), Dam Lipinski (IL-3) Conor Lamb (PA-17), Cheri Bustos (IL-17), Collin Peterson (MN-7), Henry Cuellar (TX-28)


New Jersey Globe

Legislative leaders and Gov. Phil Murphy have a deal on the legalization of marijuana, capping the number of cultivators at 37 for the first 24 months, the New Jersey Globe has learned.

Murphy, who has made the legalization of recreational marijuana one of his top priorities as governor, was able to score an agreement with Senate and Assembly Democrats at 4 PM on a Friday.


70% of the sales tax will be dedicated to social justice programs, and 100% of the social equity fund will be used on social equity programs.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#342199: Dec 4th 2020 at 3:07:13 PM

Wait, Democrats vote against legalization and Republicans for it? Always thought it was the other way around.

Stopped clock moment there?

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#342200: Dec 4th 2020 at 3:09:33 PM

Sorry I wasn't clear - every Democrat except those 6 voted for the bill, and every Republican save 5 voted against. I was just pointing out the exceptions.

Edited by nova92 on Dec 4th 2020 at 3:11:58 AM


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