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#341951: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:08:12 PM

That’s an unverified Twitter account, got an actual source?

Also martial law doesn’t work that way.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 1st 2020 at 11:08:59 AM

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#341952: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:13:22 PM

One silly question, but are Donnie's lawyers including Lin Wood and Sidney Powell Affably Evil and genuinely believe that he is America's savior or are they Faux and are just serving him just for shits and giggles?

[down]No it doesn't. I was just curious.

Edited by clemont107 on Dec 1st 2020 at 6:18:36 AM

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#341953: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:16:04 PM

Does it matter?

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#341954: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:20:06 PM

The answer is probably neither

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#341955: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:20:57 PM

Man, that Axios article on Schumer’s comments make me think Cunningham’s political career is basically over; he will never be able to gain support again

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#341956: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:24:41 PM

Could he call a national emergency?

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#341958: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:44:49 PM

If you have to ask if T**** can do something, try to remember that T**** himself doesn't know if he can do it and the answer is almost certainly no.

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#341959: Dec 1st 2020 at 3:56:18 PM

This has nothing to do with anything but is there a term in US politics to describe efforts to paint a past presidency as leagues worse than it actually was?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#341960: Dec 1st 2020 at 4:03:55 PM

I don't know about a specific term, but now I'm wondering what the antonym to nostalgia is.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#341962: Dec 1st 2020 at 4:27:53 PM

Neither a national emergency or martial law would have any impact on the transition, so Trump’s ability (or lack there off) to declare either is meaningless as far as Biden becoming president is concerned.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#341963: Dec 1st 2020 at 4:57:58 PM

[up] Still, it's incredibly disturbing how many people in that Twitter thread are all for it. My only hope is that some of them are bots or paid trolls because... yikes.

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A procrastination in of itself
#341964: Dec 1st 2020 at 5:28:19 PM

You can find a Twitter thread in support of anything, it’s less a commentary on people and more a commentary on Twitter.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#341965: Dec 1st 2020 at 5:50:30 PM

Justice Department investigating potential presidential pardon bribery scheme, court records reveal

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/presidential-pardon-justice-department/index.html

    An Excerpt 
The Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House or related political committee in exchange for a presidential pardon, according to court records unsealed Tuesday in federal court.

The case is the latest legal twist in the waning days of President Donald Trump's administration after several of his top advisers have been convicted of federal criminal charges and as the possibility rises of Trump giving pardons to those who've been loyal to him.

The disclosure is in 20 pages of partially redacted documents made public by the DC District Court on Tuesday afternoon. The records show Chief Judge Beryl Howell's review in August of a request from prosecutors to access documents obtained in a search as part of a bribery-for-pardon investigation.

The filings don't reveal a timeline of the alleged scheme, or any names of people potentially involved, except that communications between people including at least one lawyer were seized from an office that was raided sometime before the end of this summer.

No one appears to have been publicly charged with a related crime to date.

The White House declined to comment on the court filing. CNN has previously reported that associates of the President are making appeals to him in the hopes of obtaining pardons before he leaves office. There is no indication that any of those associates are being investigated by DOJ in relation to Tuesday's filing.

According to the court records, at the end of this summer, a filter team, used to make sure prosecutors don't receive tainted evidence that should have been kept from them because it was privileged, had more than 50 digital devices including iPhones, iPads, laptops, thumb drives and computer drives after investigators raided the unidentified offices.

Prosecutors told the court they wanted permission to the filter team's holdings. The prosecutors believed the devices revealed emails that showed allegedly criminal activity, including a "secret lobbying scheme" and a bribery conspiracy that offered "a substantial political contribution in exchange for a presidential pardon or reprieve of sentence" for a convicted defendant whose name is redacted, according to the redacted documents.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#341966: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:10:53 PM

So, assuming the best case scenario and Georgia Democrats manage to pull off the long shot of winning both of those Senate seats, how far those an effective 51 majority (Harris being the tie-breaker) take us?

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#341967: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:11:26 PM

"Can appoint positions" and no further.

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A procrastination in of itself
#341968: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:15:32 PM

As far as Joe Manchin is willing to go, exactly how far that is we will have to wait to see for certain.

Edited by Silasw on Dec 1st 2020 at 2:15:55 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#341969: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:20:15 PM

Manchin, Sinema, and Feinstein. Let's not convince ourselves we're just one conservative Democrat away from ending the filibuster.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#341970: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:28:52 PM

Healthcare reform can be passed via budget reconciliation, can't it?

If Manchin moves on the filibuster, though, I think Sinema will move with him.

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#341971: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:30:02 PM

Manchin has stated his opposition to scrapping the filibuster, but I’ve yet to hear of his position on reforming it.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#341972: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:41:37 PM

[up][up][up]Conservative democrat!! Now that's a great oxymoron!

Seriously though. It's because of these DINOs that progress for a liberal agenda has stalled since the 70s. A Democrat that does not want reforms is not much better than a Republican.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#341973: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:43:43 PM

But a DINO that votes with the Democrats 50% of the time is better than a Republican who would vote with them 0% of the time.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#341974: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:49:23 PM

Machin's position on the filibuster is that it's a weapon that can be used against Republicans as much as for them.

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A procrastination in of itself
#341975: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:50:01 PM

As has been pointed out before, even if all Manchin and others did was vote for Schumer to be majority leader that would still be a huge victory.

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