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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yes, if we can handle the philosophical digression, I believe that consciousness in and of itself is of a higher moral order: worth preserving in aggregate, but like any organism growing unconstrained, sometimes you have to prune the tree for the remainder to be healthy. I don't consider myself a fit judge of who gets to be pruned though: that way lies megalomania.
I suppose this logically extends to fetuses lacking definable consciousness, so that the argument of preserving it doesn't precisely apply, but they represent future conscious humans.
This leads to another argument: quality of life. It is important that consciousness persist, but for that to happen it needs to (a) be of sufficient quality to make correct decisions that will lead to its persistence, (b) have some intrinsic benefit or value through culture, science, etc. Therefore in some cases not having a child is a net positive.
Again, I don't consider myself a fit judge of who is and is not worthy.
Edited by Fighteer on Nov 29th 2020 at 5:35:51 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The problem with those methods is there permanence, if you had told me for instance even 5 years ago "yes your going to want kids" then she would not have believed you... would have been more then willing to go for those... there is a damn good reason those methods require you to go to a psychiatrist first and are so hard to get.
I believe the ban is just on topics specifically about it, not it being discussed in existing topics.
X5 You’re missing out both people not in a relationship and people unable to access permanent means of birth control.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 29th 2020 at 10:49:19 AM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
The CDC has records for fetus losses, which suggests they are on roughly the order of magnitude of the number of abortions in the US. Here
is some data, albeit from 2009.
I must honestly admit, I just learned about something called "Contingent Election"
And this article made it sound like this could really happen
https://andrewmtanner.medium.com/is-america-heading-for-a-contingent-election-2865d81f5f8f
Is this just baseless fearmongering?
Edited by Forenperser on Nov 29th 2020 at 1:11:37 PM
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Yeah, it's fearmongering. Any attempt by the supreme court to say that Biden is not "necessarily" president-elect is nothing short of a coup, and I think they have enough self-preservation to know better.
Also there’s even more baseless fearmongering further down that blog post, they declaring that Biden won’t run in 2024 and that Harris will be challenged from the left (likely by AOC).
You seem to have stumbled across a random blog post, not an actual source of news or political commentary.
I honestly wouldn't even call what you found an article.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 29th 2020 at 11:56:54 AM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThis person thinks the US should also split into autonomous regions so I'd say this is another form of doomcasting.
The Pennsylvania House Speaker has said he won't take up a bill that changes how they appoint other electors, as have other GOP state legislatures.
Now, that doesn't mean Trump isn't doing real harm to US democracy. But it's not, at this point, the election will being stolen from Biden, but the more long term impacts on the GOP base and the Republican Party that worry me.
Edited by nova92 on Nov 29th 2020 at 5:04:42 AM
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Edited by nova92 on Nov 29th 2020 at 4:09:39 AM

To me the number of abortions per pregnancy is the more relevant number, and about 1 in 5 still seems extremely high.
The applicable population isn’t “all women, even menopausal and post-menopausal ones who can’t become pregnant anyway”.
And the situations where birth control in the sense of condoms, the pill, IUD, etc. would be necessary are even smaller than that, as it’s basically just “casual relationships” + “committed relationship where you aren’t ready to have a kid yet.” For people who don’t want a kid at all, or who don’t want any additional kids, vasectomies and getting your tubes tied are pretty much completely effective.
And yes, I know some guys are babies about vasectomies, but they really should get over it.
Edited by Galadriel on Nov 29th 2020 at 5:27:43 AM