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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Unfortunately enough, "Donald Trump" has, through these last four years, violated the collective consciousness of humanity so badly and scarred it so severely that he most likely will never end up forgotten by it for a long time forward as the meme-molester he always has been.
The best that can be done, is to keep him in a negative light and ensure that "NO. This is NOT an example to follow."
...
Silly random question that came to mind:
Trump is (currently) promising to step down once the Electoral College picks Biden. Does this mean resignation, or just putzing off to Mar-a-lago? If the former, would that see Pence sworn in as the 46th President, and make Biden the 47th?
More seriously:
Pennsylvania House legislature introduces resolution to dispute election results
With the Pennsylvania legislative session ending Monday, the move is likely to be vetoed by Democratic Gov Tom Wolf even if it were to move quickly through the state government.
The resolution would also put the state’s Republican majority in jeopardy as it would threaten to invalidate the outcome of several GOP victories.
Saturday morning, Pennsylvania state Sen. Doug Mastriano — who Trump has taken to retweeting recently — added to the state Republican voices attempting to challenge the outcome of the election in a series of tweets. Without citing any proof, Mastriano claimed, “there is mounting evidence that the PA presidential election was compromised.”
“If this is the case, under Article II, Section 1.2 of the US Constitution, the state legislature has the sole authority to direct the manner of selecting delegates to the Electoral College,” he said in one of his tweets.
“Therefore, we are introducing a Resolution to exercise our obligation and authority to appoint delegates to the Electoral College,” he said.
Twitter has stamped his tweets with, “This claim about election fraud is disputed.”
-ABC News’ Alisa Wiersema
Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 28th 2020 at 11:02:18 AM
So it doesn't look like it'll go anywhere. But the fact that nearly a fourth of Pennsylvania State House Republicans are willing to go along with this and attempt to subvert democracy is seriously concerning.
So both Republican Senators from Georgia have insider-trading scandals. Nice.
Edited by nova92 on Nov 28th 2020 at 11:15:27 AM
It's like a tumor: it spreads but can be wiped out before causing more harm. In order to get rid of the tumor, people should encourage younger adults to be indoctrinated in left-wing ideals and vote Blue.
Banning Trump as a topic of discussion is a bad idea because, well, he was President and Biden's presidency is going to have to involve cleaning up the disaster he left. For that matter, Trump's followers are still gonna be around stirring up trouble.
To use a good metaphor: You know in Avengers Endgame that part where all the Marvel characters show up to fight Thanos, and Cap says "Avengers, Assemble!"? That's where we're at right now.
Leviticus 19:34Unless someone is charged, probably not. The heart of the Trumpism is that there's nothing wrong with enriching yourself as long as you abuse the right people.
I liken it to the fact that Mayor Laguardia tried to hurt American Nazism by exposing Fritz Kuhn's massive embezzlement from his organization. Fritz just pointed out as Fuhrer, he could do what he wanted. His base ate it up. So, the Mayor just contended himself by sending Fritz to jail.
Which is I think a good argument for how to deal with Trump.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.![]()
IIRC, multiple scandal-plagued Republicans did do somewhat worse this year than the presidential numbers. And runoffs are largely about turnout, so if they can persuade just a small portion to stay at home, the margin in November was narrow enough that it might be enough.
I'm hedging a lot though, because 'could' isn't the same thing as 'will'.
Edited by nova92 on Nov 28th 2020 at 11:38:02 AM
Being theoretical for a moment, having Trump as a foil for President Biden would create a dynamic that is unique for US Politics.
Because there is no such thing as "The Leader of the Opposition" in the US. By Trump declaring himself as the defacto candidate for 2024 (and thus daring the Republic establishment / resistance? to prove him wrong) there will be a place in the US political ecosystem that he can carve out for himself.
Theoretically, such a position could be used to create a useful contrast between those in power and the alternative option waiting on the sideline. You could even set up debates or question and answer sessions (Think Prime Minister's Questions in the UK).
Theoretically it could serve a lot of good in educating the public about the role of the President in a real time manner.
Theoretically.
Just a crying shame that any potential opportunity that could come from having a Leader of the Opposition will be squandered by Trump turning it into a vehicle for his ego, his narcissism, his sense of entitlement and victimisation.
That's the thing. Are we going to get four years of Trump sitting on the sidelines going "nooo don't listen to him, vote this way" to Republican patsies who will actually listen? If so, it may only be Trump's repeated and embarrassing failures here that drive enough people away from him to make that survivable as a country.
It's been fun.
All of this "negative talk" by the Donald on how he was "cheated" out of the election will only really affect his audience if the man is still alive for another four years. With all his atrocious health habits and anger management problems reducing his lifespan, I doubt it.
My attitude is, I don't plan on proactively talking about him, or inviting mention of the man into conversation; but if someone brings him up, I'm not going to be shy about discussing him, either.
I don't see that the Republican party gains much by keeping him as a point of focus; or, rather, he'll remain in the center until another, more useful idiot comes along, and then everyone's attention will shift toward that person.
Pennsylvania high court throws out challenge to mail-in ballots – The plaintiffs lacked "due diligence" in a claim that could have disenfranchised millions of voters, the state Supreme Court said.
Kelly, along with several other Pennsylvania Republicans, sought to invalidate millions of mail-in votes, which could have ceded a key state won by President-Elect Joe Biden to President Donald Trump.
The ruling said, "Petitioners sought to invalidate the ballots of the millions of Pennsylvania voters who utilized the mail-in voting procedures. ... Alternatively, Petitioners advocated the extraordinary proposition that the court disenfranchise all 6.9 million Pennsylvanians who voted in the General Election and instead 'direct the General Assembly to choose Pennsylvania’s electors.'"
The high court ruled no on all counts and said, "All other outstanding motions are dismissed as moot." It said the claim could have resulted in the "disenfranchisement" of millions of voters.
A spokesman for Kelly did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
GOP lawmaker slams Republican Trump loyalists, calls out "anti-American" supporters, says he's "damn sick of it" – Congressman Denver Riggleman accused his Republican colleagues of a "massive grift" in remaining quiet, as the president continues to cast doubt on the election results.
Riggleman is among the few Republicans who have acknowledged President-elect Joe Biden's victory over Trump. Most media outlets called the election for the Democrat, who has secured 306 Electoral College votes, over two weeks ago, but Trump has refused to concede.
In an interview with Forbes, Riggleman condemned his fellow Republicans for remaining quiet amid Trump's attempts to cast doubt on the election process by claiming a "rigged" and "stolen" election. It's "completely unethical," he said, explaining that some of his colleagues believe that breaking with Trump would "cost them their careers."
"The career is more important than the facts, it's that simple," Riggleman added. "I'm so damn sick of it. I'm sick of it."
Riggleman admitted that there were "true believers" of Trump's claims of widespread voter fraud, but he went on to suggest that they were not smart people. "[It] really speaks to where your intelligence level is... to believe in that type of operation," he said.
The lawmaker also criticized Trump for embracing "anti-Semitic" and "anti-American" supporters and added that it was "irresponsible" for the president to retweet Q Anon conspiracies.
"He got so desperate to retain power that he forgot he was serving people and not himself," Riggleman said of Trump, adding that the president has "never served anything but himself, when you talk about his businesses and what he's done."
In a statement to Newsweek, Riggleman noted that he doesn't think all MAGA supporters are "anti-American," only the ones pushing pro-Trump conspiracy theories. He also affirmed his belief that "conspiracy theories can cause huge damage and those that knowingly spread them and know they are false is dangerous."
Riggleman's remarks came hours after he shot back at a tweet that accused him of being "responsible" for the "corrupt election" that led to Trump's loss. The tweet named Riggleman and a number of other Republicans who have acknowledged Biden's win or called for a peaceful transition of power to the incoming Biden administration.
"I'm proud to be on this list with my honorable colleagues—it's one of many circulating," he responded. "We have been tagged and called 'traitors' based on our use of data analytics, facts and common sense. Time for a GOP that represents the core of America, not the manic fringes."
Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 29th 2020 at 1:21:06 AM
Riggleman's probably a bit angry at the party for throwing him under the bus, and because he's not going to be in Congress next year, doesn't have anything to lose by speaking out. The interview cited in the article is over at Forbes
, and also notes that "Riggleman is open to serving in the Biden administration".

> I propose we ban Trump as a topic after the inauguration, by way of collective political detox. Temporary or otherwise.
[Audience laughs]
Fat chance of such a ban ever working,Trump will be presence long after he stops being president
Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 28th 2020 at 6:39:24 PM
have a listen and have a link to my discord server